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A small nitpick: They don't "own" these addresses, the regional internet registries (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC etc.) loan them to Amazon so they can use them, they coul
by ThePhysicist 6y ago
A small nitpick: They don't "own" these addresses, the regional internet registries (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC etc.) loan them to Amazon so they can use them, they could take them away again if AWS would do something that's against the RIRs' policies.
We also have a single /22 block of addresses from RIPE (we were one of the last companies to get such a block in 2019), so far we haven't made use of it though as it's still a bit tricky to find providers that will announce your addresses (without asking a hefty amount of money for it).
- worldofmatthew 6y agoDid you register a ASN?
- ThePhysicist 6y agoNot yet. Getting an ASN number is independent of getting LIR status.
- worldofmatthew 6y agoMore hosts are willing to be a upstream for your ASN than announce your IP block on their ASN.
- bzb6 6y agoThat’s a huge nitpick, given that RIRs generally don’t give a shit even if you don’t use the addresses at all. Also I can imagine Amazon would rightly sue if a RIR tried to take addresses from them.
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- CKN23-ARIN 6y agoThe exception to this is a handful of remaining "legacy" pre-RIR address holders. I'm surprised AWS, etc. are so willingly handing the addresses they buy from legacy holders over to ARIN.
- AdamGibbins 6y ago> o far we haven't made use of it though as it's still a bit tricky to find providers that will announce your addresses (without asking a hefty amount of money for it). Vultr can do so https://www.vultr.com/features/bgp/ https://www.vultr.com/features/bgp/ for no additional cost.
- ThePhysicist 6y agoThanks! I'm aware of them, but you need two peers to be able to announce your IP space (multi-homing requirement). AWS actually also allows you to bring your own IPs, so we might indeed go Vultr+AWS for now.
- histriosum 6y agoI dont think the multihoming requirement works like that. Either Vultr or AWS would fulfill it, as they each certainly would be advertising the block out several redundant ISP paths, thus fulfilling the multihoming justification...
- ThePhysicist 6y agoNope, RIPE really requires two different ASNs / peering partners on their ASN application form.
- icedchai 6y agoYou don't need your own ASN to announce IP space. The upstream can do it for you.
- nixgeek 6y agoIt’s only the RIR which requests proof you will multi-home and you must have been able to say to which AS you would peer to get the /22, since it’s a question RIPE asks as standard and the analyst will have considered in approving your application. BGP itself doesn’t care at all. Announce the entire block from one “region” in Vultr, or split it out with a /24 in four different ones. It’ll work just fine.