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I can't help wondering if Biden shouldn't take these lunatics up on their offer. The US armed forces would probably follow his orders and be able to win Civil

I can't help wondering if Biden shouldn't take these lunatics up on their offer. The US armed forces would probably follow his orders and be able to win Civil War 2.0 in very little time, with probably less than 1000 Americans losing their lives (so a lower body count than that attributable to Trump's mishandling of Covid). A line needs to be drawn between people who support the peaceful transition of power, and those that support violence and armed intimidation of civilian election officials. If Biden doesn't settle that during his first term, he risks 2020 being the last free election that the country has.

ThrowawayR2 6y ago
> "The US armed forces would probably follow his orders and be able to win Civil War 2.0 in very little time, with probably less than 1000 Americans losing their lives ." Are you willing to bet your future on that? Seems like a bad gamble to me. "In a poll released this week, 52 percent of veterans said they would vote for President Trump, while 42 percent backed former Vice President Joe Biden. ... In 2016, Trump was favored by 60 percent of veterans who voted, according to exit polling." https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/oct/29/veterans-usually-vote-strongly-republican-polls-su/ https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/oct/29/veterans-usually-vote-...
- mcphage 6y ago
  They do take an oath to uphold the constitution. 52% of veterans may have voted for Trump, but I doubt 52% of veterans are going to violate that oath. In any event, it’s a terrible idea for all concerned.
nl 6y ago
You realize that a former US general (Flynn) is one of the people calling for a military-supported coup, right? While I don't think most of the military support him or anything, I think you should consider scenarios where the chain of command fractures. We've seen this in non-defence agencies (look at the backflips in the Justice department), and it's odd to think the military is somehow immune. Civil war isn't a good thing. I don't know how old you are, but I remember Yugoslavia.

ThrowawayR2 6y ago

> "The US armed forces would probably follow his orders and be able to win Civil War 2.0 in very little time, with probably less than 1000 Americans losing their lives ." Are you willing to bet your future on that? Seems like a bad gamble to me. "In a poll released this week, 52 percent of veterans said they would vote for President Trump, while 42 percent backed former Vice President Joe Biden. ... In 2016, Trump was favored by 60 percent of veterans who voted, according to exit polling." https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/oct/29/veterans-usually-vote-strongly-republican-polls-su/ https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/oct/29/veterans-usually-vote-...

mcphage 6y ago
They do take an oath to uphold the constitution. 52% of veterans may have voted for Trump, but I doubt 52% of veterans are going to violate that oath. In any event, it’s a terrible idea for all concerned.

nl 6y ago

You realize that a former US general (Flynn) is one of the people calling for a military-supported coup, right? While I don't think most of the military support him or anything, I think you should consider scenarios where the chain of command fractures. We've seen this in non-defence agencies (look at the backflips in the Justice department), and it's odd to think the military is somehow immune. Civil war isn't a good thing. I don't know how old you are, but I remember Yugoslavia.