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You do realize that capitalism co-opts everything and that women entering the workforce led to two people now earning what a single person used to? What's more,

You do realize that capitalism co-opts everything and that women entering the workforce led to two people now earning what a single person used to? What's more, I'm not really sure the women cooking in those villages hate it as much as you put on them. That's not to say we don't all deserve self-determination but the story we were sold, of ultimate freedom for everyone, is just a new wage-slavery for everyone. Lest you think I'm a deplorable, loveless man shaking his fast at the world from his parents' basement: I am loved by a wife of the bravado feminist ultra class who herself acknowledges this secret trap Capital sprung upon us. Your life will be wrung from you, bit by bit, and you'll profess it was your dream the whole time.

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barry-cotter 6y ago
> You do realize that capitalism co-opts everything and that women entering the workforce led to two people now earning what a single person used to? Two people earn a lot more than one person used to by any material metric. People don’t feel any richer because any surplus gets eaten up by positional goods. It’s not enough to have a perfectly reasonable 1950s house. You must have one twice as big, like your friends. It’s not enough to go on a camping holiday, or road trip. You have to have a trip to the Caribbean twice a year. Most of all, the ultimate positional good, the real prestige markers, an Ivy League degree for your children and a house in a good school district, i.e. one with no poor people.
- cmdshiftf4 6y ago
  If this is your impression of the life lived by, and motivations of, the average two income household then I implore you to get out of your blatant little bubble as soon as you possibly can and try to connect with a variety of actual people out living life.
- ttjjtt 6y ago
  Factors like the rising cost of housing and competition for education means that two parents working in professional careers with university educations can barely attain the same assets as a family supported by one blue collar tradesman in the 50s. People are having far less kids any more and they are stunned by the incompatibility of work-family when they do. We have been played.
  - ttjjtt 6y ago
    From today’s guardian https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/12/british-middle-class-young-people-class-home-ownership-job-security https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/12/britis... This is a global trend
tripzilch 6y ago
> You do realize that capitalism co-opts everything and that women entering the workforce led to two people now earning what a single person used to? ... in the US maybe. Other places are arguably way more progressive in their equality between men and women, and do not have this problem either. (the lesson from this should be that the USA has multiple problems, not all of which stem from lack of equality, one of which is their cultural attitude wrt capitalism, in particular being nearly blind to its obvious shortcomings)
- benibela 6y ago
  Elsewhere the entire family is earning less than a single person earns in the US

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barry-cotter 6y ago

> You do realize that capitalism co-opts everything and that women entering the workforce led to two people now earning what a single person used to? Two people earn a lot more than one person used to by any material metric. People don’t feel any richer because any surplus gets eaten up by positional goods. It’s not enough to have a perfectly reasonable 1950s house. You must have one twice as big, like your friends. It’s not enough to go on a camping holiday, or road trip. You have to have a trip to the Caribbean twice a year. Most of all, the ultimate positional good, the real prestige markers, an Ivy League degree for your children and a house in a good school district, i.e. one with no poor people.

cmdshiftf4 6y ago
If this is your impression of the life lived by, and motivations of, the average two income household then I implore you to get out of your blatant little bubble as soon as you possibly can and try to connect with a variety of actual people out living life.
ttjjtt 6y ago
Factors like the rising cost of housing and competition for education means that two parents working in professional careers with university educations can barely attain the same assets as a family supported by one blue collar tradesman in the 50s. People are having far less kids any more and they are stunned by the incompatibility of work-family when they do. We have been played.
- ttjjtt 6y ago
  From today’s guardian https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/12/british-middle-class-young-people-class-home-ownership-job-security https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/dec/12/britis... This is a global trend

tripzilch 6y ago

> You do realize that capitalism co-opts everything and that women entering the workforce led to two people now earning what a single person used to? ... in the US maybe. Other places are arguably way more progressive in their equality between men and women, and do not have this problem either. (the lesson from this should be that the USA has multiple problems, not all of which stem from lack of equality, one of which is their cultural attitude wrt capitalism, in particular being nearly blind to its obvious shortcomings)

benibela 6y ago
Elsewhere the entire family is earning less than a single person earns in the US