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Show HN: Discover $ monthly revenue of OnlyFans models
- ebg13 6y agoRiley Reid Estimated MRR: $743,862.34 I'm in the wrong business! Meanwhile Nakedbakers has 174,386 subscribers and $0 MRR. But...uhh...where do these estimates come from?
- learnstats2 6y agoI'm pretty sure the highest paid technologists earn orders of magnitude more than this. I was surprised these values were not higher.
- claydavisss 6y agough, no programmer is making $700k a MONTH from programming alone
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- ogre_codes 6y agoPeople don't get paid a salary like that. If you are a founder or in the right startup with a good compensation package, it can happen.
- rasz 6y agohttps://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-04/snowflake-ceo-collects-a-95-million-payout-every-month https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-04/snowflake...
- monkpit 6y agoThey did say an order of magnitude more. So $7m a month...
- learnstats2 6y agowhat would they have to do in addition? Maybe: have good business skills, networking skills, be independent, be in the right position to spot the right opportunities at the right time?
- outkast 6y agoAre we really going to compare someone making self-driving electric cars to someone who masturbates on camera?
- quineoa 6y agoYou’d be surprised how much work goes into operating with that many subscribers. Top funnel, attrition, constant harassment, stolen content, fan requests, just to name some obvious ones.
- outkast 6y agoWell gosh, in that case my condolences go out to these poor millionaire cam girls.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoWhy not? Both serve a purpose and a market. At least masturbating on camera doesn’t require semi slave labor for mineral mining.
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- ReactiveJelly 6y agoThe frustration is that most of us will never be the highest-paid technologists, and also it doesn't look like modelling takes much effort. It's frustrating that luck is such a huge component of life quality.
- scarmig 6y agoThe vast majority of OnlyFans models make at most a couple hundred dollars a year. Those who do grab a spot at the tail end of the power distribution work at it almost literally constantly. Obviously luck does play a role, but that applies as much to native intelligence as it does to... other assets.
- nemothekid 6y agoI think it’s much easier to be a high paid technologist than it is to be a high paying model. Both are difficult, no doubt, but there are vastly, if not infinitely many more models who are barely scraping by earning almost nothing. I knew of one “talent” agency that was trying to get early on the Instagram model phase who had employed no fewer than 100 absolutely stunning girls who each were barely averaging a couple thousand followers. At least as a no name at FAANG I would have a cushy salary.
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- OmarShehata 6y agoYeah for top tier in a lucrative industry this isn't surprising, and in fact low as you mention. For most of them this is only one revenue stream.
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- pas 6y agoThere are free accounts too.
- outkast 6y agoOP, is this your site? How is this info gathered? How do we know it's reliable? If this is accurate, several of these "models" are making millions each year. Belle Delphine is earning over $9MM a year ($764,736.00 MRR).
- _crgy 6y agoyeah it is, I either use their exact subscribers count or estimate it based on the posts / like ratio. also accounting for possible tips by their fans. Belle told that she earns $500k/mo in 2019ish so $760k nowadays is very possible imo. thanks for commenting tho, I went to sleep once I posted this and it made blood of many people very hot. chill out yall, it’s just cool stats for curious minds out there
- o0-0o 6y agoIf this is accurate, I wonder what the tax implications are for the IRS et al.
- piracy1 6y agoWhat u mean? Why would it not just be regular income? I don't see what would be interesting.
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- wmf 6y ago"Creators in the United States will receive an IRS Form 1099 if they have earned more than $600 USD in the previous tax year." https://onlyfans.com/help/3/16/70 https://onlyfans.com/help/3/16/70
- _nothing 6y agoAs interesting as the tax implications for YouTubers, I imagine.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoThis is something that frequently comes up around sex work. For legal work, it’s the same as any other gig/contract job (i.e. the organization is responsible for reporting, the worker is responsible for filing and paying). For decriminalized work (where it exists, it’s reasonably safe to assume that it’s not filed, unless there’s specific provisions). For criminalized work, it’s safe to assume it’s untaxed. And without trying to be too nose up in the air about it, everyone should probably be able to draw these conclusions from their familiarity with other mixed-legal markets (e.g. cannabis). As far as the IRS’s perspective, as far as they’re concerned they can’t especially scrutinize anything that isn’t federally recognized. So it’s highly likely they pay closer attention to income for (say) cam models than (say) brothel workers in the counties in NV with legal brothels. But it’s also pretty likely that those brothers in NV at least encourage if not verify their employees’ compliance. With all of that said, while I don’t have a strong stance on legalization vs decriminalization (and I defer to my sex worker friends and peers on the subject), legalization is a clear net benefit for bean counting purposes.
- beaner 6y agoSome of the numbers seem to not make sense. For example, model A has 4k subscribers and $0 estimated MMR, while model B has 1.5k subscribers and $17k estimated MMR.
- psyc 6y agoI don’t know if this is the explanation in this case, but free subscriptions do exist.
- ydnaclementine 6y agoI'll save you a ctrl-f: >belledephine >$764,736.00 MRR
- loosetypes 6y agoFolks project that gaming streamer Cr1tikal makes somewhere in the realm of $300,000/month. He goes into a slice of his (just Twitch) financials here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s_7SfrU3OY&ab_channel=penguinz0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s_7SfrU3OY&ab_channel=pengu...
- danvoell 6y ago“Models”
- recursive 6y agoWhat you call it? I honestly don't know what you're getting at.
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- koolba 6y agoSoft core prostitution.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoYes, an accurate term and at least a somewhat humanizing one. Finding it objectionable probably says more about you than it does about sex workers.
- outkast 6y agoWhen I hear "model" I think of someone who models for things like clothing, jewelry, accessories, and so on. If your idea of model is cam girl plunging phallic objects in all variety of orifices then that probably says more about you than it does about the commenter.
- fart32 6y agoBy definition (or at least by a definition I recognize), model is a person or thing used as an example to follow or imitate. Personally, I don't really care, but I can see why it might be difficult for some to accept some of the performers as models.
- eyelidlessness 6y agoMaybe they should watch the models more and learn some things.
- gotorazor 6y agoSo many of these, you have to pay $$$ set by the artist to be a subscriber. Hence, even a few thousand subs will net tens of thousands in monthly income. I don’t understand how they come up with the tips estimate.
- kelsolaar 6y agoNot sure what are the requirements to get on the OnlyFans platform, but they seemed to be plagued by “adult spam” in their comment section : https://blog.onlyfans.com/how-to-become-a-full-time-digital-content-creator/ https://blog.onlyfans.com/how-to-become-a-full-time-digital-...
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- throwaway888abc 6y agoMeh, those poor indiehackers with $10/mrr, better to get bigger boobs!
- adamjb 6y agoEstimated OnlyFans income distribution: https://twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/1335726357548990464 https://twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/1335726357548990464
- tclancy 6y agoIt would behoove us all to ask why this exists other than the obvious reason, which is to look down on the models for doing something wrong. AKA Nephew, delete this.
- newbie789 6y agoI agree with this assessment. I'm not entirely sure how this is something that would be of value to this community unless there are far more sex workers that lurk here. I can't put my finger on it but it feels (to me personally) kind of creepy in a way that I can't accurately describe. I suppose one question I would ask is: How would one use this data and for what purpose?