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Skip the queue for what? Did they get the vaccine already before it was approved? This is likely complete misinformation. Why is there so much misinformation o

Skip the queue for what? Did they get the vaccine already before it was approved? This is likely complete misinformation. Why is there so much misinformation on HN today?

JumpCrisscross 6y ago
> Did they get the vaccine already before it was approved? Yup. It’s sitting in warehouses ready for distribution. No idea how. And no idea how they trusted it to be legitimate.
- rmrfstar 6y ago
  Supply chain integrity is a huge issue that normies take for granted. The surest way to lose normie friends is to point out how much faith people put in supply chains.
natechols 6y ago
Or alternately, what the GP is really telling us is that the rich and powerful are easily duped into spending their money on placebos.
- JumpCrisscross 6y ago
  > the rich and powerful are easily duped into spending their money on placebos That was frankly my line of questioning. But at least in the German case, the vials and packaging looked legitimate. And it was a reputable doctor administering it at their home who claimed to have directly procured it, though I’m sure that meant warehouse workers or something in the middle, so who knows.
  - natechols 6y ago
    If that is the case everyone involved is playing an exceptionally dangerous game and I can't imagine that this would be the norm, especially since I suspect the thieves will get greedy and screw up quickly.
    - JumpCrisscross 6y ago
      > everyone involved is playing an exceptionally dangerous game Agree. From how prevalently I watched tests get mis-allocated a few months ago, however, I’m not optimistic about enforcement. Particularly given the political implications it would have for the leaders in power, who are supposed to be doing a better job at this.
      - natechols 6y ago
        I think pre-emptive enforcement of something like this is extremely difficult without getting downright creepy and invasive. The best you can do is drop the hammer on anyone greedy and dumb enough to get caught - and I'm sure there will be some of these! But personally, I prefer vaccines where the chain of custody didn't require massive bribery and risk-taking.
  - thelean12 6y ago
    Then you should contact the medical board or whatever the German equivalent is and tell them about this "reputable" doctor. They'd at least lose their license, and for good reason.
  - XorNot 6y ago
    Looked legitimate? Do you have any idea how cheap a label maker is?

Skip the queue for what? Did they get the vaccine already before it was approved? This is likely complete misinformation. Why is there so much misinformation on HN today?

JumpCrisscross 6y ago

> Did they get the vaccine already before it was approved? Yup. It’s sitting in warehouses ready for distribution. No idea how. And no idea how they trusted it to be legitimate.

rmrfstar 6y ago
Supply chain integrity is a huge issue that normies take for granted. The surest way to lose normie friends is to point out how much faith people put in supply chains.

natechols 6y ago

Or alternately, what the GP is really telling us is that the rich and powerful are easily duped into spending their money on placebos.

JumpCrisscross 6y ago
> the rich and powerful are easily duped into spending their money on placebos That was frankly my line of questioning. But at least in the German case, the vials and packaging looked legitimate. And it was a reputable doctor administering it at their home who claimed to have directly procured it, though I’m sure that meant warehouse workers or something in the middle, so who knows.
- natechols 6y ago
  If that is the case everyone involved is playing an exceptionally dangerous game and I can't imagine that this would be the norm, especially since I suspect the thieves will get greedy and screw up quickly.
  - JumpCrisscross 6y ago
    > everyone involved is playing an exceptionally dangerous game Agree. From how prevalently I watched tests get mis-allocated a few months ago, however, I’m not optimistic about enforcement. Particularly given the political implications it would have for the leaders in power, who are supposed to be doing a better job at this.
    - natechols 6y ago
      I think pre-emptive enforcement of something like this is extremely difficult without getting downright creepy and invasive. The best you can do is drop the hammer on anyone greedy and dumb enough to get caught - and I'm sure there will be some of these! But personally, I prefer vaccines where the chain of custody didn't require massive bribery and risk-taking.
- thelean12 6y ago
  Then you should contact the medical board or whatever the German equivalent is and tell them about this "reputable" doctor. They'd at least lose their license, and for good reason.
- XorNot 6y ago
  Looked legitimate? Do you have any idea how cheap a label maker is?