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I'm genuinely curious as to why people have so much faith in big pharma after the whole benzo crisis that's hit America. Weren't these same companies paying doc
by h3cate 6y ago
I'm genuinely curious as to why people have so much faith in big pharma after the whole benzo crisis that's hit America. Weren't these same companies paying doctors to get people hooked on Xanax?
- Trasmatta 6y agoFalse equivalence
- h3cate 6y agoSorry, please can you explain for a dumb person?
- Invictus0 6y agoAre you suggesting that we'll get addicted to the covid vaccine? This thing isn't designed for repeat customers.
- h3cate 6y agoNot at all, I'm not suggesting anything, I am just asking a question. The current thinking is that you will need to have regular boosters of this vaccine so yes it is designed for repeat customers if that's the case
- Omnus 6y ago"So much faith"? People are just following the science. Are you really arguing that because one bad situation has occurred involving pharmaceutical companies, we should assume every new drug or treatment is bogus or based on evil motives?
- postalrat 6y agoToo many people are claiming they are following the science but instead are playing politics.
- h3cate 6y agoI agree with you on this one. If you try and have a rational discussion about the pros and cons of this vaccine it seems like a lot of the people for say: "we believe in the science" or something along those lines but then will give zero real insight into said science
- throwaway201103 6y agoAlso too many people are claiming they are following the science but don't know the first thing about how science works. Edit: not accusing anyone in particular, just e.g. when some mayor says "we're following the science" I know he's just parroting what he's been told because he has no scientific training whatsoever.
- h3cate 6y agoNext time somebody tells you they're just following the science, simply ask them to explain it so you can understand.
- h3cate 6y agoOkay, please explain the science that people are following. As for the one bad situation, please take a look at this list - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutical_settlements https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_pharmaceutic.... this is the top 20.
- Omnus 6y agoI'm not going to explain how clinical trials work and why you should trust that process. Again, bad situations do not invalidate all work being done in a field.
- chopin 6y agoAre we talking about the same process which allowed companies for decades to hide trials which where not in their favor? Or until recently where not obliged to publish the trial results? Not to forget, many trials are not reproducible either. Compared to the "hard" sciences, medicine has not very high standards. And trials are completely profit-motivated, that's a bad incentive. These trials are conducted by the same companies who had no qualms to sell highly addictive stuff to people. Why should I trust that the data they publish is the data they collected?
- h3cate 6y agoUnfortunately it's impossible to have this conversation when the person is saying "I'm following the science but I won't explain the science to you". You may as well run into a brick wall
- jpttsn 6y agoIn 2020 there’s science and The Science. The latter seems to be more religious in its application and what it means to its devotees. That makes life difficult.
- h3cate 6y agoI don't think it's religious per say but it is definitely ingrained in the my team Vs the other mentality us humans seem to have
- oldie 6y agoPoliticians, having long ago squandered their own credibility, are now working their way through someone else's. But it's not an easy partnership. Politicians, especially during an emergency, need to produce fast, clear, consistent answers; science, as I'm sure you know, is about the gradual and painstaking accumulation of knowledge, and about nuance and qualification and uncertainty and interpretation. Scientists love to be proved wrong; politicians can't stand it.
- beefalo 6y agoThey will make money on the vaccine too
- h3cate 6y agoThey made money off benzos too