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You're assuming distribution will work fairly and optimally. That's very unlikely, especially because the initial rollout will still be overseen by the Trump ad

You're assuming distribution will work fairly and optimally. That's very unlikely, especially because the initial rollout will still be overseen by the Trump admin.

dustinmoris 6y ago
You’re assuming that everyone talks about the USA, but they probably don’t.
- imdsm 6y ago
  I find this on the internet, though usually reddit rather than here. I am forever asking folks if they mean the US, and trying to explain to them that there is... a rest of world
  - tpxl 6y ago
    America is the largest (primarily) English speaking community in the world and both Reddit and YC are US companies. It's not surprising some assume the whole audience is American.
    - Tijdreiziger 6y ago
      The US accounts only for about 10% of English speakers in the world.
  - sixothree 6y ago
    Honestly it's kind of hard to know what the audience for a site might be. If people are active during your hours and in your language, the assumption is easy to make.
- 495636483 6y ago
  Oh boy, do I hope we don't talk about the US in 2021, anymore. It's been like a slightly different, ever the same car crash you drive by, every day. For four fucking years. I am sure my dopamine receptors look like old, all dries up raisins by now. I wish we as a species could agree stop all news for year or ten. Detox and heal, form new habits like life has value and shit.
srcno 6y ago
It will be overseen by the individual states in the US.
throwaway201103 6y ago
You mean the admin that funded and fast-tracked the development and trials?
- pmiller2 6y ago
  You mean the admin that encouraged people not to wear masks? The one that downplayed the virus at every opportunity? The one that held rallies without masks required, but still had people sign waivers in case they got sick? Is it that one, or some other administration you’re thinking of?
  - exclusiv 6y ago
    You have a good counter. To add to "don't wear masks" though - WHO, CDC, Fauci all had poor and inaccurate guidance as well. It's like none of these experts have sane defaults when they don't know about something. Kind of hard to believe, really. Then when they're wrong - they say "oh yeah we lied, we didn't want a run on masks for health workers". Such BS. They didn't know non-surgical/non-(k)n95 masks could be useful. It's ok to admit when you're wrong. Better than saying you lied. Especially when there's enough distrust of government. The US administration is culpable. But so are the experts. People need to be able to trust their experts. Separately - I find it ridiculous we have people that are all about science, except when their agenda conflicts. We end up with exceptions for religion. Exceptions for protests. Exceptions for filming movies. Whatever. If you have enough influence or can cause enough outrage about something you can get your way. Nobody has the balls to take hard stances. They create these illogical plans based on who is influencing them. Is there any official who was consistent and pragmatic with their pandemic plan?
    - Rapzid 6y ago
      The CDC officially recommended the use of face masks in public places on April 3. That was forever ago and only a few weeks into the US crises(couple weeks after first lockdowns started). There absolutely was a PPE shortage at the time, and there absolutely was new information coming in about the efficacy of wearing non N95 masks. That's a lot of attribution to malice or incompetence for such a dynamic situation that shaped up in such a relatively short amount of time.. Meanwhile the current admin had their last maskless rally what, just in the past week or so?
tamaharbor 6y ago
Yawn.

You're assuming distribution will work fairly and optimally. That's very unlikely, especially because the initial rollout will still be overseen by the Trump admin.

dustinmoris 6y ago

You’re assuming that everyone talks about the USA, but they probably don’t.

imdsm 6y ago
I find this on the internet, though usually reddit rather than here. I am forever asking folks if they mean the US, and trying to explain to them that there is... a rest of world
- tpxl 6y ago
  America is the largest (primarily) English speaking community in the world and both Reddit and YC are US companies. It's not surprising some assume the whole audience is American.
  - Tijdreiziger 6y ago
    The US accounts only for about 10% of English speakers in the world.
- sixothree 6y ago
  Honestly it's kind of hard to know what the audience for a site might be. If people are active during your hours and in your language, the assumption is easy to make.
495636483 6y ago
Oh boy, do I hope we don't talk about the US in 2021, anymore. It's been like a slightly different, ever the same car crash you drive by, every day. For four fucking years. I am sure my dopamine receptors look like old, all dries up raisins by now. I wish we as a species could agree stop all news for year or ten. Detox and heal, form new habits like life has value and shit.

srcno 6y ago

It will be overseen by the individual states in the US.

throwaway201103 6y ago

You mean the admin that funded and fast-tracked the development and trials?

pmiller2 6y ago
You mean the admin that encouraged people not to wear masks? The one that downplayed the virus at every opportunity? The one that held rallies without masks required, but still had people sign waivers in case they got sick? Is it that one, or some other administration you’re thinking of?
- exclusiv 6y ago
  You have a good counter. To add to "don't wear masks" though - WHO, CDC, Fauci all had poor and inaccurate guidance as well. It's like none of these experts have sane defaults when they don't know about something. Kind of hard to believe, really. Then when they're wrong - they say "oh yeah we lied, we didn't want a run on masks for health workers". Such BS. They didn't know non-surgical/non-(k)n95 masks could be useful. It's ok to admit when you're wrong. Better than saying you lied. Especially when there's enough distrust of government. The US administration is culpable. But so are the experts. People need to be able to trust their experts. Separately - I find it ridiculous we have people that are all about science, except when their agenda conflicts. We end up with exceptions for religion. Exceptions for protests. Exceptions for filming movies. Whatever. If you have enough influence or can cause enough outrage about something you can get your way. Nobody has the balls to take hard stances. They create these illogical plans based on who is influencing them. Is there any official who was consistent and pragmatic with their pandemic plan?
  - Rapzid 6y ago
    The CDC officially recommended the use of face masks in public places on April 3. That was forever ago and only a few weeks into the US crises(couple weeks after first lockdowns started). There absolutely was a PPE shortage at the time, and there absolutely was new information coming in about the efficacy of wearing non N95 masks. That's a lot of attribution to malice or incompetence for such a dynamic situation that shaped up in such a relatively short amount of time.. Meanwhile the current admin had their last maskless rally what, just in the past week or so?

tamaharbor 6y ago

Yawn.