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People saying "NO" or "I WILL WAIT" should be ashamed of themselves for falling for misinformation and harming the rest of us. (Unless people are confused and

People saying "NO" or "I WILL WAIT" should be ashamed of themselves for falling for misinformation and harming the rest of us. (Unless people are confused and saying "I will wait" when in fact they're going to be forced to wait until their turn comes around)

kylebenzle 6y ago
You should be ashamed of trying to shame people into taking a new and still widely untested treatment. I've had Covid and we STILL don't even know if that makes a person immune. Has there ever been a case where a vaccine is MORE effective than actually getting and recovering from a virus? Seems like the latter would be "better" so why would I get a vaccine for something I am immune to?
- davmar 6y ago
  > Has there ever been a case where a vaccine is MORE effective than actually getting and recovering from a virus? Eradication of diseases and massively decreased death counts due to vaccinations. That's a pretty strong argument to support the idea that the vaccine is more effective than letting a disease rip through a population.
  - shawnz 6y ago
    I think you are misinterpreting their post. They are saying that vaccine-induced immunity is not likely to be more effective than natural immunity (of which we are already uncertain about the effectiveness)
- crispyporkbites 6y ago
  If you’re already immune, I guess it won’t affect you anyway, so you might as well get it to be doubly sure (your first case could have been a false positive)
- thelean12 6y ago
  Having Covid already is probably a fine excuse to not get the vaccine. We'll know soon enough how much immunity it gives you, but it seems to give plenty for now. But unless it wasn't clear: I'm pissed at the massive amount of people saying they won't take the vaccine because of conspiracy theories. Not even the HN can escape them, apparently. I literally just saw and commented on someone spouting one in this thread just 20 minutes into the thread. And I got downvoted for calling them out, even when they agreed and took it down. And then thinking that this vaccine which has been properly trialed and not rushed is going to somehow be worse than, for example, 1 in 1000 people in the UK already dead. Seriously? So yeah, I'm going to shame people.

kylebenzle 6y ago

You should be ashamed of trying to shame people into taking a new and still widely untested treatment. I've had Covid and we STILL don't even know if that makes a person immune. Has there ever been a case where a vaccine is MORE effective than actually getting and recovering from a virus? Seems like the latter would be "better" so why would I get a vaccine for something I am immune to?

davmar 6y ago
> Has there ever been a case where a vaccine is MORE effective than actually getting and recovering from a virus? Eradication of diseases and massively decreased death counts due to vaccinations. That's a pretty strong argument to support the idea that the vaccine is more effective than letting a disease rip through a population.
- shawnz 6y ago
  I think you are misinterpreting their post. They are saying that vaccine-induced immunity is not likely to be more effective than natural immunity (of which we are already uncertain about the effectiveness)
crispyporkbites 6y ago
If you’re already immune, I guess it won’t affect you anyway, so you might as well get it to be doubly sure (your first case could have been a false positive)
thelean12 6y ago
Having Covid already is probably a fine excuse to not get the vaccine. We'll know soon enough how much immunity it gives you, but it seems to give plenty for now. But unless it wasn't clear: I'm pissed at the massive amount of people saying they won't take the vaccine because of conspiracy theories. Not even the HN can escape them, apparently. I literally just saw and commented on someone spouting one in this thread just 20 minutes into the thread. And I got downvoted for calling them out, even when they agreed and took it down. And then thinking that this vaccine which has been properly trialed and not rushed is going to somehow be worse than, for example, 1 in 1000 people in the UK already dead. Seriously? So yeah, I'm going to shame people.