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This is one of the small number of takeovers (along with Sparrow and Dark Sky) that actually make me angry, because they deprived everyone of something really g

This is one of the small number of takeovers (along with Sparrow and Dark Sky) that actually make me angry, because they deprived everyone of something really great, for little apparent benefit. The fact that so many people use Slack, but then do all their voice, video and screensharing in Zoom or some other tool says a lot about Slack as a tool and company. My wife uses Teams for work. It's rubbish in many ways, but when she's using it they do everything in it. Somehow slack has failed at this despite having many of the same features built in.

ptrklly 6y ago
What happened with Dark Sky? I have used it for years and it seems just as good as ever. And it’s one of the few iPhone apps I give full location information to so I like that it’s owned by Apple since they have that info anyway.
- pcr0 6y ago
  The fact that they shut down the API and Android app.
  - ptrklly 6y ago
    Ah, of course.
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irrational 6y ago
Why do you say Teams is rubbish? We used it for the better part of a year before moving to Slack (corporation wide mandate). So far my opinion of Slack is that it is rubbish. I never had any issues with Teams, but Slack has been a nightmare for me. I don’t get updates and notifications about channels I’m following like I should. It doesn’t work anywhere near as well on my phone as Teams did. I’m not a MS lover (I was a web developer during the first two browser wars and the standards war and still have bad feelings towards MS), but Teams seems to be really well put together. I’m interested to hear why you disagree.
- Jochim 6y ago
  Not the parent, but it's far too easy for your IT department to totally fuck teams up. Our Teams instance has the calendar disables making it a pain to join meetings if you don't have easy access to your outlook calendar. They've also disabled any sort of api access which really limits what can be done in terms of integrating it into our other workflows. In terms of general usability the app is lacking in information density. I routinely miss messages in team channels I've collapsed.
  - irrational 6y ago
    Huh, I have the opposite problem with Slack. I’m constantly missing messages on Slack, but I never did on Teams.
    - IamZeroBalance 6y ago
      Same thing happened to me. Missing a LOT of messages. No notifications at all and it's really frustrating.
- wokwokwok 6y ago
  Do you use teams a lot? I’m literally astonished to read this. Teams is the king of “press a key and wait for the screen to unfreeze”, or the “launched but all you get is a white box until you restart”. It also features what I politely refer to as “no search”, which is where you search your chat history, and conversations just aren’t there... until you go back through your history and find them, and then wow! Suddenly you can search for it. Screen sharing can cause a meeting to drop out for no reason. Want to upload a video? Or an image? Well, you can get an empty white box and when you click on it, you’ll get an empty white pop up. Great job. Now, all of that said... that’s on windows. Now try using it on a Mac. Ha! Haaaaaa! Usable? Yes. Good?? Not in my books. It’s one of the poorest chat applications I’ve used, personally. /shrug To be fair, I haven’t had much trouble with the mobile app on iOS, but I don’t use it much, and it’s seems on-par to the slack one to me. ...but I certainly wouldn’t call it a marvel of engineering; it’s just deeply integrated with outlook and it’s mandatory; so people who don’t do “chat” also use it.

ptrklly 6y ago

What happened with Dark Sky? I have used it for years and it seems just as good as ever. And it’s one of the few iPhone apps I give full location information to so I like that it’s owned by Apple since they have that info anyway.

pcr0 6y ago
The fact that they shut down the API and Android app.
- ptrklly 6y ago
  Ah, of course.
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irrational 6y ago

Why do you say Teams is rubbish? We used it for the better part of a year before moving to Slack (corporation wide mandate). So far my opinion of Slack is that it is rubbish. I never had any issues with Teams, but Slack has been a nightmare for me. I don’t get updates and notifications about channels I’m following like I should. It doesn’t work anywhere near as well on my phone as Teams did. I’m not a MS lover (I was a web developer during the first two browser wars and the standards war and still have bad feelings towards MS), but Teams seems to be really well put together. I’m interested to hear why you disagree.

Jochim 6y ago
Not the parent, but it's far too easy for your IT department to totally fuck teams up. Our Teams instance has the calendar disables making it a pain to join meetings if you don't have easy access to your outlook calendar. They've also disabled any sort of api access which really limits what can be done in terms of integrating it into our other workflows. In terms of general usability the app is lacking in information density. I routinely miss messages in team channels I've collapsed.
- irrational 6y ago
  Huh, I have the opposite problem with Slack. I’m constantly missing messages on Slack, but I never did on Teams.
  - IamZeroBalance 6y ago
    Same thing happened to me. Missing a LOT of messages. No notifications at all and it's really frustrating.
wokwokwok 6y ago
Do you use teams a lot? I’m literally astonished to read this. Teams is the king of “press a key and wait for the screen to unfreeze”, or the “launched but all you get is a white box until you restart”. It also features what I politely refer to as “no search”, which is where you search your chat history, and conversations just aren’t there... until you go back through your history and find them, and then wow! Suddenly you can search for it. Screen sharing can cause a meeting to drop out for no reason. Want to upload a video? Or an image? Well, you can get an empty white box and when you click on it, you’ll get an empty white pop up. Great job. Now, all of that said... that’s on windows. Now try using it on a Mac. Ha! Haaaaaa! Usable? Yes. Good?? Not in my books. It’s one of the poorest chat applications I’ve used, personally. /shrug To be fair, I haven’t had much trouble with the mobile app on iOS, but I don’t use it much, and it’s seems on-par to the slack one to me. ...but I certainly wouldn’t call it a marvel of engineering; it’s just deeply integrated with outlook and it’s mandatory; so people who don’t do “chat” also use it.