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So one side is trying to stage a coup using the SCOTUS as a weapon, thereby defying the will of the citizenry, and the best you an come up with is "Both Sides"?

airb 6y ago
One side believes the last 4 years has seen multiple attempts to remove their elected president. Not to mention the Justice kavanaugh confirmation madness.
- loopz 6y ago
  Correction: Elected criminal lying president.
  - vxNsr 6y ago
    Lol. I love when someone like you comments this without any irony. You truly believe this nonsense like it’s gospel.
    - loopz 6y ago
      What Trump has going for him, is picking up issues that need to be addressed, that have gone been neglected in a fast-evolving world, leading to unfairness. However, how these issues are treated and how people are treated, is important in a democracy. https://theconversation.com/why-hard-core-trump-supporters-ignore-his-lies-144650 https://theconversation.com/why-hard-core-trump-supporters-i... If he's such a great leader and not just an opportunist populist, why do he need to instill a fear-culture where everybody who doesn't lick his boots get fired. People appointed by the same leader dare not speak up their own opinions. This isn't democracy. What type of leader do this? Hint: Communist leaders like Stalin, and fascist leaders like Mussolini. If you're unable to spot a liar yourself, it is not too hard to form your own opinion on this: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trump... https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-1-004 https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-... https://www.dailywire.com/news/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien https://www.dailywire.com/news/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+lies+list https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+lies+list Fortunately, a majority of the population see right through the lack of leadership and lies for what they truly are. The means are as important as the ends, and the ends are often obscured and full of misdirection, more like PR campaigns than anything of real and lasting value.
coward8675309 6y ago
As someone who voted against Trump twice, I am horrified by his attempts to cling to office. At the same time, I am also reminded of the people in my social circle as well as in the Lefty media who in late 2016 talked about how Electoral College members had no legal obligation to cast a vote for Trump. (Except that many states have laws that say they do.) What seems to be true of "both sides" is that both see their enemies as people who are set on their destruction and thereby justify "by whatever means necessary" thinking. I too am one of those people thought a pinko socialist by some and a revanchist caveman by others.
- mbStavola 6y ago
  Pundits questioning the electoral process is not the same as politicians actively trying to overturn election results.
  - coward8675309 6y ago
    True. And people filing lawsuits is not the same as armed insurrection.
  - coward8675309 6y ago
    True, and filing lawsuits is not the same as violent, armed insurrection.
- underseacables 6y ago
  As a person who voted for Trump twice, I’m horrified by the blasé way the left ignores serious issues with the vote. If you were a Facebook moderator, I truly believe that you would censor me because of your own political beliefs, and allow hate speech by those you agree with. I’m not alarmed by his desire to hang on to power, I champion it.
  - bluntfang 6y ago
    Just wondering, do you think there were serious issues with the vote in 2016?
tim333 6y ago
Quite a lot of republicans believe in democracy still. The POTUS has had to abandon Fox and advocate crankier outlets for his cause.

airb 6y ago

One side believes the last 4 years has seen multiple attempts to remove their elected president. Not to mention the Justice kavanaugh confirmation madness.

loopz 6y ago
Correction: Elected criminal lying president.
- vxNsr 6y ago
  Lol. I love when someone like you comments this without any irony. You truly believe this nonsense like it’s gospel.
  - loopz 6y ago
    What Trump has going for him, is picking up issues that need to be addressed, that have gone been neglected in a fast-evolving world, leading to unfairness. However, how these issues are treated and how people are treated, is important in a democracy. https://theconversation.com/why-hard-core-trump-supporters-ignore-his-lies-144650 https://theconversation.com/why-hard-core-trump-supporters-i... If he's such a great leader and not just an opportunist populist, why do he need to instill a fear-culture where everybody who doesn't lick his boots get fired. People appointed by the same leader dare not speak up their own opinions. This isn't democracy. What type of leader do this? Hint: Communist leaders like Stalin, and fascist leaders like Mussolini. If you're unable to spot a liar yourself, it is not too hard to form your own opinion on this: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trumps-lies.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trump... https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-1-004 https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-... https://www.dailywire.com/news/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien https://www.dailywire.com/news/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+lies+list https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+lies+list Fortunately, a majority of the population see right through the lack of leadership and lies for what they truly are. The means are as important as the ends, and the ends are often obscured and full of misdirection, more like PR campaigns than anything of real and lasting value.

coward8675309 6y ago

As someone who voted against Trump twice, I am horrified by his attempts to cling to office. At the same time, I am also reminded of the people in my social circle as well as in the Lefty media who in late 2016 talked about how Electoral College members had no legal obligation to cast a vote for Trump. (Except that many states have laws that say they do.) What seems to be true of "both sides" is that both see their enemies as people who are set on their destruction and thereby justify "by whatever means necessary" thinking. I too am one of those people thought a pinko socialist by some and a revanchist caveman by others.

mbStavola 6y ago
Pundits questioning the electoral process is not the same as politicians actively trying to overturn election results.
- coward8675309 6y ago
  True. And people filing lawsuits is not the same as armed insurrection.
- coward8675309 6y ago
  True, and filing lawsuits is not the same as violent, armed insurrection.
underseacables 6y ago
As a person who voted for Trump twice, I’m horrified by the blasé way the left ignores serious issues with the vote. If you were a Facebook moderator, I truly believe that you would censor me because of your own political beliefs, and allow hate speech by those you agree with. I’m not alarmed by his desire to hang on to power, I champion it.
- bluntfang 6y ago
  Just wondering, do you think there were serious issues with the vote in 2016?

tim333 6y ago

Quite a lot of republicans believe in democracy still. The POTUS has had to abandon Fox and advocate crankier outlets for his cause.