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I love it simply because its the best SSH experience of all of the smartphones. One click gets me the phones real terminal and then "ssh -l me whereever.com". N

I love it simply because its the best SSH experience of all of the smartphones. One click gets me the phones real terminal and then "ssh -l me whereever.com". No bogus setup screens, with each server requiring a 5 minute fill in the blank session to connect to, no menus full of special keys to transmit (most covered with the orange key), just pure .ssh/id_dsa public key in my home-dir win. Its 10x easier than the best thing on my ipad and its with me 24/7 because it also happens to be my phone. Other problems with WebOS and Pre? Sure there are. This makes up for all of them. Smartphone makers: rent-seek my terminal, you lose.

daniel_solano 16y ago
Have you tried Maemo? With Maemo, I can just launch an xterm and ssh to my heart's content. For that matter, I can also set up an SSH server and ssh into the device. I'm guessing Meego probably has the same support. In my experience, it's the closest experience to have a full Linux box that I can stick in my pocket.
- superppl 16y ago
  Maemo is brilliant, except it's a dead end in favor of Meego, whose future is uncertain.
  - windsurfer 16y ago
    What's wrong with a dead end? Isn't SSH a dead end, since we haven't seen any major modifications ina while? Maemo still has SSH, it's still linux, and it's still debian. There are community projects to update software and fix bugs.
    - davidw 16y ago
      > What's wrong with a dead end? No new phones, obviously.
    - sigzero 16y ago
      SSH is in active development. It isn't a dead end at all. While Maemo/Meemo will be going the way of the dodo probably.
- rsanchez1 16y ago
  Yeah, I can do all of that with my Pre 2 as well, and I had been doing it on my Pre for a while. Heck, with xterm on my Pre 2, I can run a Debian or Ubuntu ARM rootfs and actually have a full Linux experience in my pocket.
  - dave1010uk 16y ago
    I didn't know webOS could do that. Maybe webOS could replace my Maemo N900. I have a Debian chroot on my N900 (with OpenOffice, GIMP & Apache) but don't use it that much. Other Linuxy things that I use my N900 for that I'd like to know if webOS could do: - vnc server - all the usual ssh port tunnelling / forwarding stuff - bash - cron - git - curl / wget / nmap - software repositories (Maemo uses apt) - python / ruby / php (Not trying to say mine's better than yours, I'd just like to know if webOS might be for me as my N900 is getting old)
    - rsanchez1 16y ago
      Yes, you can do a lot of those things, but over homebrew. You can install ipkg-opt, which will give you access to the nslu2-linux optware packages. It's no apt, but you can still use it to install packages. From the optware packages, you can install python/ruby/php, install a vnc server (although I think there are some homebrew apps for that), install git, cron, and a lot of the standard programs you would expect in a standard linux installation. I'm not sure on ssh port tunneling/forwarding, but curl/wget come installed on webOS.
      - joshuafcole 16y ago
        Tunneling has worked like a champ for me. With a linux box at home and a linux phone in my pocket, corporate blockers are a thing of the past and all of my work is only ever an ssh away. =]
      - dave1010uk 16y ago
        WebOS is looking really good. Can anyone point me to an architecture diagram along the lines of [1]? The best one I could find was [2], which doesnmt give many details. [1] http://www.99bits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/meego-architecture.jpg http://www.99bits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/meego-archi... [2] http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/webos-architecture-dev.jpg http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/webos-architecture-dev....
irons 16y ago
Is Prompt already the best thing on your iPad? If not, I'd be curious to know how it stacks up. (Prompt costs US$5 for an iPad/iPhone version. Nobody get the vapors.)
- barkerja 16y ago
  I've used Prompt on both the iPad and iPhone and have zero complaints. It's an excellent app and worth every penny.
- msh 16y ago
  I use prompt allmost everyday. Its THE best ssh app I have tried on a smartphone. I dont know webos/maemo, but in my time on palmos, symbian, windows mobile, android and ios I have not met a ssh app this good.
  - kiiski 16y ago
    Webos/maemo have the same ssh client (and xterm) you have on a desktop linux.
antihero 16y ago
Connectbot is pretty excellent for Android, I'd have to add.
- daniel_solano 16y ago
  I agree, and it's open source too. In fact I am currently working on getting it to work well with the full keyboard on my new Android tablet/netbook.
  - nodata 16y ago
    Can you exclude your private ssh key from being synced with google?
    - EwanToo 16y ago
      Why do you think the private ssh key would be sync'd with Google in first place? There's no background sync of your Android phone's contents to Google, just things like Contacts and Email (which are optional)
      - nodata 16y ago
        When I setup an Android phone I am asked if I want to sink my configuration and data with Google, and that this information includes things like wifi psks. Are ssh keys stored in an area that is separate from what Google syncs?
        daniel_solano 16y ago
        As I understand it, it's up to each app to decide what exactly it will back up. After a quick glance at the code, it seems to me that it backs up preferences, host keys, and public/private keys.
        nodata 16y ago
        Okay, so that's a big red flag for me. Google can't have my private keys, so I can't use it. Thanks.
hessenwolf 16y ago
I see where you are going with this, but as a 'middle-adopter', I might wait until I can just install ubuntu on my phone.

daniel_solano 16y ago

Have you tried Maemo? With Maemo, I can just launch an xterm and ssh to my heart's content. For that matter, I can also set up an SSH server and ssh into the device. I'm guessing Meego probably has the same support. In my experience, it's the closest experience to have a full Linux box that I can stick in my pocket.

superppl 16y ago
Maemo is brilliant, except it's a dead end in favor of Meego, whose future is uncertain.
- windsurfer 16y ago
  What's wrong with a dead end? Isn't SSH a dead end, since we haven't seen any major modifications ina while? Maemo still has SSH, it's still linux, and it's still debian. There are community projects to update software and fix bugs.
  - davidw 16y ago
    > What's wrong with a dead end? No new phones, obviously.
  - sigzero 16y ago
    SSH is in active development. It isn't a dead end at all. While Maemo/Meemo will be going the way of the dodo probably.
rsanchez1 16y ago
Yeah, I can do all of that with my Pre 2 as well, and I had been doing it on my Pre for a while. Heck, with xterm on my Pre 2, I can run a Debian or Ubuntu ARM rootfs and actually have a full Linux experience in my pocket.
- dave1010uk 16y ago
  I didn't know webOS could do that. Maybe webOS could replace my Maemo N900. I have a Debian chroot on my N900 (with OpenOffice, GIMP & Apache) but don't use it that much. Other Linuxy things that I use my N900 for that I'd like to know if webOS could do: - vnc server - all the usual ssh port tunnelling / forwarding stuff - bash - cron - git - curl / wget / nmap - software repositories (Maemo uses apt) - python / ruby / php (Not trying to say mine's better than yours, I'd just like to know if webOS might be for me as my N900 is getting old)
  - rsanchez1 16y ago
    Yes, you can do a lot of those things, but over homebrew. You can install ipkg-opt, which will give you access to the nslu2-linux optware packages. It's no apt, but you can still use it to install packages. From the optware packages, you can install python/ruby/php, install a vnc server (although I think there are some homebrew apps for that), install git, cron, and a lot of the standard programs you would expect in a standard linux installation. I'm not sure on ssh port tunneling/forwarding, but curl/wget come installed on webOS.
    - joshuafcole 16y ago
      Tunneling has worked like a champ for me. With a linux box at home and a linux phone in my pocket, corporate blockers are a thing of the past and all of my work is only ever an ssh away. =]
    - dave1010uk 16y ago
      WebOS is looking really good. Can anyone point me to an architecture diagram along the lines of [1]? The best one I could find was [2], which doesnmt give many details. [1] http://www.99bits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/meego-architecture.jpg http://www.99bits.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/meego-archi... [2] http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/webos-architecture-dev.jpg http://www.palminfocenter.com/images/webos-architecture-dev....

irons 16y ago

Is Prompt already the best thing on your iPad? If not, I'd be curious to know how it stacks up. (Prompt costs US$5 for an iPad/iPhone version. Nobody get the vapors.)

barkerja 16y ago
I've used Prompt on both the iPad and iPhone and have zero complaints. It's an excellent app and worth every penny.
msh 16y ago
I use prompt allmost everyday. Its THE best ssh app I have tried on a smartphone. I dont know webos/maemo, but in my time on palmos, symbian, windows mobile, android and ios I have not met a ssh app this good.
- kiiski 16y ago
  Webos/maemo have the same ssh client (and xterm) you have on a desktop linux.

antihero 16y ago

Connectbot is pretty excellent for Android, I'd have to add.

daniel_solano 16y ago
I agree, and it's open source too. In fact I am currently working on getting it to work well with the full keyboard on my new Android tablet/netbook.
- nodata 16y ago
  Can you exclude your private ssh key from being synced with google?
  - EwanToo 16y ago
    Why do you think the private ssh key would be sync'd with Google in first place? There's no background sync of your Android phone's contents to Google, just things like Contacts and Email (which are optional)
    - nodata 16y ago
      When I setup an Android phone I am asked if I want to sink my configuration and data with Google, and that this information includes things like wifi psks. Are ssh keys stored in an area that is separate from what Google syncs?
      - daniel_solano 16y ago
        As I understand it, it's up to each app to decide what exactly it will back up. After a quick glance at the code, it seems to me that it backs up preferences, host keys, and public/private keys.
        nodata 16y ago
        Okay, so that's a big red flag for me. Google can't have my private keys, so I can't use it. Thanks.

hessenwolf 16y ago

I see where you are going with this, but as a 'middle-adopter', I might wait until I can just install ubuntu on my phone.