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You're looking at this all wrong - we could be justifying a brand new war every single day with these numbers!

TuringNYC 6y ago
I dont think this is a joking matter. The toll of wars are far greater than the initial provoking incident. There are death tolls for your home troops, innocent civilians, and long-term tolls of disabilities and psychological damage.
- zenexer 6y ago
  I’m fairly certain the parent commenter was being facetious. It’s really hard to comprehend why powerful people are willing to impose such devastation on humankind; the parent is mocking their thought process, with a touch of rather dark humor.
- jessaustin 6y ago
  I appreciate your feelings on this, but I somewhat agree with parent that humor is a good idea. The majority of Americans, and nearly all the "journalism" to which they are subjected, still believe that they should fear brown people overseas enough to preemptively murder them. That is counter to logic and reality, but logic is not the way to make this argument. Few people (well, few Americans anyway) are capable of controlling their fears through logic. Lots of people don't like to be the butt of jokes, though. If the rest of us are always laughing at them, their insecurity might open their eyes to the emptiness of their fear. The "journalism", however, won't change until it's no longer cost-effective. We have to change ourselves first.
paxys 6y ago
If Covid had originated in a less powerful country than China I'm almost certain we would have invaded them already. You can see it by the amount of "Chinese virus"/"it was made in a lab" rhetoric from the top to try and deflect from our shitty handling of it.
- 2-tpg 6y ago
  Deflection may have been positive side-effect. Officially it is: > U.S. President Donald Trump Monday said his "Chinese virus" statement for weeks was a counter-propaganda strategy to fight Chinese allegations that American soldiers brought coronavirus to Wuhan. Given how China and Russia stepped up their muscle flexing in the past year, how China is against an international investigation into the origins, I am expecting more than not, that 2021 will reveal it was indeed a lab leak. If natural, China still has to answer why it sat on corona for at least 3 months before notifying international health agencies. All this research should see atomic-bomb grade inspections anyway, those are long overdue. I don't want Iran experimenting with SARS-3 without oversight, invading afterwards will be too late. This article from the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists is both critical of Trump, yet carefully supports the "leaked from a lab" theory: https://thebulletin.org/2020/06/did-the-sars-cov-2-virus-arise-from-a-bat-coronavirus-research-program-in-a-chinese-laboratory-very-possibly/ https://thebulletin.org/2020/06/did-the-sars-cov-2-virus-ari... worth a read.
mywittyname 6y ago
Great sarcasm predicts the future. While you were joking, this is honestly what I think is happening. Our country has already started a number of "wars" on groups and this is only going to get worse now that a significant portion of the population feels that our soon-to-be leaders are illegitimate.
- jessaustin 6y ago
  This is why Trump will stay on the news. He's too sui generis to be the creation of TPTB, but they would never let an iron grip on the brain stems of the more suggestible 70% of the population go to waste. At the same time a third of us expect nothing from their votes for Biden because It Could Be Worse, another third will be sure that Trump's Triumphant Return awaits only a few thousand dead Bolivians or gays or whatever. If he faded from view, so would the heat he generates.

I dont think this is a joking matter. The toll of wars are far greater than the initial provoking incident. There are death tolls for your home troops, innocent civilians, and long-term tolls of disabilities and psychological damage.

zenexer 6y ago
I’m fairly certain the parent commenter was being facetious. It’s really hard to comprehend why powerful people are willing to impose such devastation on humankind; the parent is mocking their thought process, with a touch of rather dark humor.
jessaustin 6y ago
I appreciate your feelings on this, but I somewhat agree with parent that humor is a good idea. The majority of Americans, and nearly all the "journalism" to which they are subjected, still believe that they should fear brown people overseas enough to preemptively murder them. That is counter to logic and reality, but logic is not the way to make this argument. Few people (well, few Americans anyway) are capable of controlling their fears through logic. Lots of people don't like to be the butt of jokes, though. If the rest of us are always laughing at them, their insecurity might open their eyes to the emptiness of their fear. The "journalism", however, won't change until it's no longer cost-effective. We have to change ourselves first.

paxys 6y ago

If Covid had originated in a less powerful country than China I'm almost certain we would have invaded them already. You can see it by the amount of "Chinese virus"/"it was made in a lab" rhetoric from the top to try and deflect from our shitty handling of it.

2-tpg 6y ago
Deflection may have been positive side-effect. Officially it is: > U.S. President Donald Trump Monday said his "Chinese virus" statement for weeks was a counter-propaganda strategy to fight Chinese allegations that American soldiers brought coronavirus to Wuhan. Given how China and Russia stepped up their muscle flexing in the past year, how China is against an international investigation into the origins, I am expecting more than not, that 2021 will reveal it was indeed a lab leak. If natural, China still has to answer why it sat on corona for at least 3 months before notifying international health agencies. All this research should see atomic-bomb grade inspections anyway, those are long overdue. I don't want Iran experimenting with SARS-3 without oversight, invading afterwards will be too late. This article from the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists is both critical of Trump, yet carefully supports the "leaked from a lab" theory: https://thebulletin.org/2020/06/did-the-sars-cov-2-virus-arise-from-a-bat-coronavirus-research-program-in-a-chinese-laboratory-very-possibly/ https://thebulletin.org/2020/06/did-the-sars-cov-2-virus-ari... worth a read.

mywittyname 6y ago

Great sarcasm predicts the future. While you were joking, this is honestly what I think is happening. Our country has already started a number of "wars" on groups and this is only going to get worse now that a significant portion of the population feels that our soon-to-be leaders are illegitimate.

jessaustin 6y ago
This is why Trump will stay on the news. He's too sui generis to be the creation of TPTB, but they would never let an iron grip on the brain stems of the more suggestible 70% of the population go to waste. At the same time a third of us expect nothing from their votes for Biden because It Could Be Worse, another third will be sure that Trump's Triumphant Return awaits only a few thousand dead Bolivians or gays or whatever. If he faded from view, so would the heat he generates.