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I would really like to see these numbers expressed in DALY / QALY, which I have not been able to find anywhere.

by danhak 6y ago

belltaco 6y ago
Hopefully whatever analysis or conclusions you make from those numbers take into consideration the health complications that survivors can suffer from.
- bryanlarsen 6y ago
  Here's a side effect that will worry some people more than death: https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19s-link-to-erectile-dysfunction/a-55862989 https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19s-link-to-erectile-dysfunction...
pjc50 6y ago
I find it hard to imagine that if 3000 people had been killed by Saudi terrorists flying a plane into a nursing home people would have said "let's not bother invading afghanistan, those people would have died soon anyway"
- nawgz 6y ago
  I mean, I don't think any nursing homes are iconic towers in what is in some ways the flagship city of the country?
  - jschwartzi 6y ago
    What does it matter? Should we care less about someone because they're not living in an "iconic tower" in "the flagship city of the country?"
    - nawgz 6y ago
      Do you not think that terrorism is more effective when it is a spectacle? I think you wouldn't be able to ignite such visceral fears and reactions with almost any other kind of attack killing so few. The death of a skyscraper is more or less unheralded, and it's easy to empathize with the abject horror the people must've felt as that happened If it's just a low-rise apartment in Anytown it's not going to drop everyone's jaw when played on TV. Can't believe people think my last comment was a commentary on the value of human life as opposed to the impact of literally toppling a tower...
      - jschwartzi 6y ago
        It seemed like you were suggesting that the COVID deaths should have less impact because it wasn't a terrorist attack.
        nawgz 6y ago
        I see. No, I was suggesting that the effectiveness of the attack wasn't it's death toll but instead its visibility. Anyways, enough of this topic, thanks for explaining
    - thu2111 6y ago
      The point of QALYS analysis is that yes, even though it sounds harsh we should in fact care less about a 90 year old with multiple severe problems who's going to die in the next few months no matter what mountains are moved for them, than a healthy 25 year old working in a flagship tower who was looking forward to a full and happy life.
yread 6y ago
I saw a study which estimated 14 DALY average per victim in the UK iirc. I think that average age of covid dead in the US is higher though

I would really like to see these numbers expressed in DALY / QALY, which I have not been able to find anywhere.

by danhak 6y ago

I would really like to see these numbers expressed in DALY / QALY, which I have not been able to find anywhere.

Hopefully whatever analysis or conclusions you make from those numbers take into consideration the health complications that survivors can suffer from.

bryanlarsen 6y ago
Here's a side effect that will worry some people more than death: https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19s-link-to-erectile-dysfunction/a-55862989 https://www.dw.com/en/covid-19s-link-to-erectile-dysfunction...

pjc50 6y ago

I find it hard to imagine that if 3000 people had been killed by Saudi terrorists flying a plane into a nursing home people would have said "let's not bother invading afghanistan, those people would have died soon anyway"

nawgz 6y ago
I mean, I don't think any nursing homes are iconic towers in what is in some ways the flagship city of the country?
- jschwartzi 6y ago
  What does it matter? Should we care less about someone because they're not living in an "iconic tower" in "the flagship city of the country?"
  - nawgz 6y ago
    Do you not think that terrorism is more effective when it is a spectacle? I think you wouldn't be able to ignite such visceral fears and reactions with almost any other kind of attack killing so few. The death of a skyscraper is more or less unheralded, and it's easy to empathize with the abject horror the people must've felt as that happened If it's just a low-rise apartment in Anytown it's not going to drop everyone's jaw when played on TV. Can't believe people think my last comment was a commentary on the value of human life as opposed to the impact of literally toppling a tower...
    - jschwartzi 6y ago
      It seemed like you were suggesting that the COVID deaths should have less impact because it wasn't a terrorist attack.
      - nawgz 6y ago
        I see. No, I was suggesting that the effectiveness of the attack wasn't it's death toll but instead its visibility. Anyways, enough of this topic, thanks for explaining
  - thu2111 6y ago
    The point of QALYS analysis is that yes, even though it sounds harsh we should in fact care less about a 90 year old with multiple severe problems who's going to die in the next few months no matter what mountains are moved for them, than a healthy 25 year old working in a flagship tower who was looking forward to a full and happy life.

yread 6y ago

I saw a study which estimated 14 DALY average per victim in the UK iirc. I think that average age of covid dead in the US is higher though