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That doesn't make any sense. The code from affiliate sales has nothing to do with you, the end user. It identifies the affiliate, in this case Brave. There is n
by Grimm1 6y ago
That doesn't make any sense. The code from affiliate sales has nothing to do with you, the end user. It identifies the affiliate, in this case Brave. There is no user information there. Their claim then is in perfectly good faith.
I think you're confusing BAT with the affiliate links which are two distinct things Brave has done. BAT I agree with you on there is still tracking there or otherwise they wouldn't be able to attribute the money to you. Affiliate links though do not have the same connotation and is the subject under discussion in this comment chain.
- notahacker 6y agoThe code doesn't identify the user as an individual, but it does inform Brave when its users visit particular third party websites (if they use its URL bar autocomplete), much like many supposedly anonymised analytics services privacy-conscious users often prefer to block. And the actual discussion subject I raised isn't the horrors of affiliate links and affiliates accessing metadata on trends in their user base's access to certain third party websites so much as Brave's history of "mistakes". The BAT might require considerably more storage of personal data, but at least its existence isn't a secret
- Grimm1 6y agoMy point is that you raised as completely separate point on a thread that wasn't discussing that point. Do you walk into a conversation mid topic in real life and attempt to change it? If so I have something to tell you about yourself.
- notahacker 6y agoI initially replied to someone speculating that Brave was backdoored by noting that their history of surprising users wasn't the best. Then I replied to someone else replying to my post with a defence of one of those practises Brave have apologised for. Then I replied to your reply to that post. This is how Hacker News generally works. I'm reasonably confident that my prior posts in this thread were more on topic than your speculation about my social skills.
- Grimm1 6y agoYou should maybe take as evidence that you are both grey text (what I replied to initially) and that the only subsequent replies you've had are me telling you that you're somewhat off topic as signal that you are in fact somewhat off topic.
- notahacker 6y agoI'd probably take grey text as evidence someone disagrees with me, not that Brave's surreptitious use of affiliate links became off topic in between propogandist replying to me to insist the affiliate data collection wasn't personally identifiable and me responding in turn that it was still a breach of trust they called a 'mistake'. My contributions to this thread thus far appear to have sparked a double digit number of comments continuing the thread about Brave (obviously not all in agreement with me) a larger number of net upvotes and one pointless offtopic digression about my personal life. Which I didn't start. Do you often wander into the ends of conversations to tell the original participants what the subject matter was supposed to be?
- Grimm1 6y agoJeez you doubled down. This is just going to turn into a more personal pissing match because frankly I have don't have good thoughts about you after this set of interactions and we both agree this is unconstructive so going to leave it here. Good luck!
- jonathansampson 6y agoPlease see my response to your list of "mistakes". You claimed that Brave tracked users, modified links on pages, and more. All of that, without exception, is false. Brave (the company) doesn't know what sites you visit. Brave is considered the most private browser in terms of phoning home: https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-deemed-most-private-browser-in-terms-of-phoning-home/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-deemed-most-private-brow.... Please feel free to inspect your own network traffic from the browser via Fiddler.