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They are applying the reasoning entirely consistently, you are just refusing to actually accept what the reasoning is.

DoofusOfDeath 6y ago
(If I'm missing something, I'd be grateful for a correction. I don't want to hold wrong beliefs, especially ones that make me more cynical.) Here's my (current) reasoning, explained by example: (1) Twitch's new rules ban display of the Confederate flag for this reason: "Given its historic and symbolic association with slavery and white supremacist groups in the US". (2) I'm assuming that Twitch's general reasoning is: "Displaying symbol ${S}, which [some subgroup of humans, selected by an unspecified criterion] ${G} associate with bad-thing ${B} and supremacist group ${R}, will be treated as Hateful Conduct." (3) Assuming that I've correctly inferred Twitch's reasoning in (2), then here are some real-world examples that I think also meet their reasoning's criteria: (3a) S="Israeli flag", G="Arabs living in Israel", B="Denying national rights to non-Jews", R="Israeli government". (See [0] below) (3b) S="PRC flag", G="Uyghers living in PRC", B="religious persecution", R="Non-muslims in control of PRC government." (See [1] below) (3c) S="Islamic crescent-and-star symbol", G="some Christians living in Muslim countries", B="religious persecution", G="The persons in power who use ${S} and do ${B}". (See [2,3] below; also backed by personal knowledge.) (3d) S="Political symbols of the U.S. Democratic party", B="advocacy of black slavery", G="black slaves prior to the U.S. civil war". (3e) S="Political symbols of the U.S. Republican party", G/B/R left as an exercise to the reader. (I'm not trying to pick on Republicans more than Democrats; it's just that the post is getting long and I need to do my day job.) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People#:~:text=It%20is%20the%20most%20important,which%20the%20state%20was%20established%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Natio.... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians [3] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305
- user-the-name 6y ago
  Not "historic association". "Current association".

(If I'm missing something, I'd be grateful for a correction. I don't want to hold wrong beliefs, especially ones that make me more cynical.) Here's my (current) reasoning, explained by example: (1) Twitch's new rules ban display of the Confederate flag for this reason: "Given its historic and symbolic association with slavery and white supremacist groups in the US". (2) I'm assuming that Twitch's general reasoning is: "Displaying symbol ${S}, which [some subgroup of humans, selected by an unspecified criterion] ${G} associate with bad-thing ${B} and supremacist group ${R}, will be treated as Hateful Conduct." (3) Assuming that I've correctly inferred Twitch's reasoning in (2), then here are some real-world examples that I think also meet their reasoning's criteria: (3a) S="Israeli flag", G="Arabs living in Israel", B="Denying national rights to non-Jews", R="Israeli government". (See [0] below) (3b) S="PRC flag", G="Uyghers living in PRC", B="religious persecution", R="Non-muslims in control of PRC government." (See [1] below) (3c) S="Islamic crescent-and-star symbol", G="some Christians living in Muslim countries", B="religious persecution", G="The persons in power who use ${S} and do ${B}". (See [2,3] below; also backed by personal knowledge.) (3d) S="Political symbols of the U.S. Democratic party", B="advocacy of black slavery", G="black slaves prior to the U.S. civil war". (3e) S="Political symbols of the U.S. Republican party", G/B/R left as an exercise to the reader. (I'm not trying to pick on Republicans more than Democrats; it's just that the post is getting long and I need to do my day job.) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People#:~:text=It%20is%20the%20most%20important,which%20the%20state%20was%20established%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Natio.... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghurs [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians [3] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305 https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48146305

user-the-name 6y ago
Not "historic association". "Current association".