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Look at the ambitious CO2 emission targets (and associated fines) for EU carmakers, no one's wriggling out of that.
by sveme 6y ago
Look at the ambitious CO2 emission targets (and associated fines) for EU carmakers, no one's wriggling out of that.
- lixtra 6y agoThey moved their production out of EU into China, US or even Turkey. Of course they won’t come back. Congrats.
- iso1631 6y agoBecause they can sell from Turkey and China into the EU and not worry about carbon emissions. If those emissions were accounted for, then it would be more efficient to manufacture closer to the customer, and we'd all benefit.
- phtrivier 6y agoI don't know about the restriction on emissions during car productions, but I think the OC was refering to carbon emissions limits on the cars sold in the EU. Basically, (again, as I understand it) there is limit on average emission / distance run by your fleet ; so you can still some SUVs if you sell enough hybrids and EV. It seems to be having an effect, at least as measure by the advertisements. 2020 seems to be, as predicted, the year when carmarkers in France realized they had to push their salespeople to actually sell those Zoe-s, otherwise they would get fined. Maybe the "powerless UE" is having some power here - though we'll have to look at the actual sales number at the end of the year. (And they'll probably come crying that the year was very bad because COVID. And fire more people to go build all the SUVs in Turkey. I don't know.)
- bfieidhbrjr 6y agoOP might have been sarcasm about VW's dieselgate...
- toast0 6y agoVW's emission cheating produced more Nitrogen Oxide emissions and less carbon dioxide emissions than if the vehicles ran the same in normal conditions and test conditions. In a nutshell, the engines ran hotter while cheating, which naturally increases fuel efficency and nitrogen oxide production. So, it was bad for breathing, but good for climate change. Except that remedying the situation was probably a lot of emissions.
- HeadsUpHigh 6y agoOh no!! Anyway
- njharman 6y agoVW certainly tried. Who else has been more successful at cheating?
- chki 6y agoThe Volkswagen scandal was only indirectly about CO2 emissions. Volkswagen cheated regarding their NOX emissions in Diesel cars which are not relevant to climate change but potentially dangerous to those living near streets or in big cities.
- tinus_hn 6y agoYeah that’s the easy finger pointing part. The hard part is doing things and making sacrifices yourself.