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Go to a mall in Bangkok and you will lose count of the number of people walking around with iphones. I don't know what you consider a "tier 2 and tier 3" count

Go to a mall in Bangkok and you will lose count of the number of people walking around with iphones. I don't know what you consider a "tier 2 and tier 3" country, since I think you just made that up, but maybe you should travel more.

pjmlp 6y ago
I do travel a lot, hence why I know how little iPhones are seen around the planet. I guess Bangkok holds 28% of Thailand population then. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/thailand https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/thailand Also the issue being discussed here are Apple computers with M1, even less than those 28%, in case you also want numbers.
- bfgoodrich 6y ago
  You clearly don't travel, or you're a liar, because your varied claims are uproariously disconnected reality. Further, your snarky misunderstanding of their statement is more disingenuous nonsense. If 28% of Bangkok citizens had iPhones, you will lose count because it's a large city. That would make them very common by any metric. A country where the GDP per capita is $7000 USD / capita and still the iPhone is at 28%, and still you continue with your "only the US cares" argument.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    Whatever, keep inside your happy bubble if it makes you happy. Personal attacks are a sign of lack of proper arguments.
    - bfgoodrich 6y ago
      You disputed actual metrics around the world with your own anecdote. The only possibility is that you don't travel or are a liar. That's just reality, not an insult. The sign of a lack of proper arguments is when you have to spin a fiction to contrive a position, which every post you've offered up to this discussion has been. The moment someone pulls the "only the US cares" (or, in your case, only HN cares apparently), it betrays that they're not arguing in good faith, hoping that everyone just nods and goes along with nonsense.
      - romanoderoma 6y ago
        Why is dang allowing this person to bully everyone? Is this the new normal on HN?
    - CyberDildonics 6y ago
      Those were not personal attacks, they were explaining that apple stuff is desired around the world and even in countries with lower incomes, people will save up to buy apple hardware, buy it used, etc.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        > You clearly don't travel, or you're a liar, because your varied claims are uproariously disconnected reality.
  - pompeirules 6y ago
    > and still the iPhone is at 28%, It's not. It's more like 25% and dropping In Italy iPhones used to be 50% of the market, because they were a status symbol and it was literally the only smartphone available, ten years after they have dropped below 24% globally, but new sells are much less, because The number of people buying their first iPhone is declining. Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference this week will showcase how the technology giant is diversifying so that it no longer has to rely so heavily on its signature product. -- 20th June 2020 - Bangkok Post Regarding new phones Apple is now third with 10% of the market share in Thailand behind Samsung (22.3%) and Huawei (17.6%) Consider that 25% is a minority, 75% is 3 times larger. Apple is not gaining market shares anywhere, except in the US. In China it dropped from 25% to 17%, in Europe from 17% to 14% in the last year. The article was about ARM in computers, Apple computing devices are only 8% of the total in Thailand. They were 9% at the beginning of this year.
    - bfgoodrich 6y ago
      It's the lying guy who uses multiple alts. Neat. I assume you also mod up your trollish posts with your alts, surely earning a ban. Begone, troll.
      - romanoderoma 6y ago
        Have you ever heard of anger management? Can you disprove the data without spewing all that bile? I'm honestly worried about your health. Here's a WSJ article about the topic https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-iphone-isnt-the-cash-cow-it-once-was-apple-isnt-worried-11592625642 https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-iphone-isnt-the-cash-cow-it...
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  That's not how statistics work. You said significant market share "of apple products" and there it is. Don't say "the issue being discussed here are Apple computers with M1" when your comment said "Please list tier 2 and tier 3 countries where there is a significant market share of Apple hardware."

pjmlp 6y ago

I do travel a lot, hence why I know how little iPhones are seen around the planet. I guess Bangkok holds 28% of Thailand population then. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/thailand https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/thailand Also the issue being discussed here are Apple computers with M1, even less than those 28%, in case you also want numbers.

bfgoodrich 6y ago
You clearly don't travel, or you're a liar, because your varied claims are uproariously disconnected reality. Further, your snarky misunderstanding of their statement is more disingenuous nonsense. If 28% of Bangkok citizens had iPhones, you will lose count because it's a large city. That would make them very common by any metric. A country where the GDP per capita is $7000 USD / capita and still the iPhone is at 28%, and still you continue with your "only the US cares" argument.
- pjmlp 6y ago
  Whatever, keep inside your happy bubble if it makes you happy. Personal attacks are a sign of lack of proper arguments.
  - bfgoodrich 6y ago
    You disputed actual metrics around the world with your own anecdote. The only possibility is that you don't travel or are a liar. That's just reality, not an insult. The sign of a lack of proper arguments is when you have to spin a fiction to contrive a position, which every post you've offered up to this discussion has been. The moment someone pulls the "only the US cares" (or, in your case, only HN cares apparently), it betrays that they're not arguing in good faith, hoping that everyone just nods and goes along with nonsense.
    - romanoderoma 6y ago
      Why is dang allowing this person to bully everyone? Is this the new normal on HN?
  - CyberDildonics 6y ago
    Those were not personal attacks, they were explaining that apple stuff is desired around the world and even in countries with lower incomes, people will save up to buy apple hardware, buy it used, etc.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      > You clearly don't travel, or you're a liar, because your varied claims are uproariously disconnected reality.
- pompeirules 6y ago
  > and still the iPhone is at 28%, It's not. It's more like 25% and dropping In Italy iPhones used to be 50% of the market, because they were a status symbol and it was literally the only smartphone available, ten years after they have dropped below 24% globally, but new sells are much less, because The number of people buying their first iPhone is declining. Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference this week will showcase how the technology giant is diversifying so that it no longer has to rely so heavily on its signature product. -- 20th June 2020 - Bangkok Post Regarding new phones Apple is now third with 10% of the market share in Thailand behind Samsung (22.3%) and Huawei (17.6%) Consider that 25% is a minority, 75% is 3 times larger. Apple is not gaining market shares anywhere, except in the US. In China it dropped from 25% to 17%, in Europe from 17% to 14% in the last year. The article was about ARM in computers, Apple computing devices are only 8% of the total in Thailand. They were 9% at the beginning of this year.
  - bfgoodrich 6y ago
    It's the lying guy who uses multiple alts. Neat. I assume you also mod up your trollish posts with your alts, surely earning a ban. Begone, troll.
    - romanoderoma 6y ago
      Have you ever heard of anger management? Can you disprove the data without spewing all that bile? I'm honestly worried about your health. Here's a WSJ article about the topic https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-iphone-isnt-the-cash-cow-it-once-was-apple-isnt-worried-11592625642 https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-iphone-isnt-the-cash-cow-it...
CyberDildonics 6y ago
That's not how statistics work. You said significant market share "of apple products" and there it is. Don't say "the issue being discussed here are Apple computers with M1" when your comment said "Please list tier 2 and tier 3 countries where there is a significant market share of Apple hardware."