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What's true to the US and HN "bubble" right now, will be the norm for the rest of the world a few years from now. no?

• pjmlp 6y ago
  If Apple lowers their prices, maybe.
  • shawnz 6y ago
    The cheapest M1 devices are already cheaper than equivalently spec'd devices from competitors, like the Surface Pro X. I think it is safe to assume they will only get cheaper from their launch-day prices.
    • iagovar 6y ago
      Being cheaper than similar specs is not enough, you have to have cheap devices and apple does not.
      • shawnz 6y ago
        Cheap is relative. Right now their M1 devices are objectively the cheapest practical ARM64 workstation products on the market. I don't see why they shouldn't be able to maintain that lead for a while as costs come down for ARM64 workstations in general. And I think it is reasonable to expect that ARM64 platforms will eventually be cheaper than x86 ones.
        • iagovar 6y ago
          Cheap is not that relative when you're poor. When your making an effort to buy an $400 laptop Apple is out of the equation. I know because I've been in that place.
          • shawnz 6y ago
            When you are making an effort to buy a $400 laptop than any flagship product from any vendor is out of the question. $400 products are not what define the future landscape of the market. I am not trying to say that the entire impoverished world is going to go out and start buying Macbooks because of the M1. What I am saying is that practical ARM64 workstations are now a lot more plausible at every price point because of what the M1 demonstrated.
            • iagovar 6y ago
              One of the parents talked about the rest of the world. Hence my reply. You don't have to be in the 3rd world to consider an Apple product extremely expensive. I agree that practical ARM64 Workstations will be more feasible now, but there's still a large gap. There's a whole market of refurbished 1st world componentes. I talk a lot with people from LATAM and they're are used to buy 2nd hand Xeons with Chinese motherboards for their prosumer market. They even sell packs of Xeons + motherboard + Memory (it was DDR3 recently, IDK how much that changed). In many countries people hacked early 2000s games and there are communities maintaining such games because many people has not the means to play the last titles. Nor money to pay for subscriptions and such. They pirated the whole ecosystem. This is pretty common in Russia and Turkey too. I guess in other countries it is too. I do have websites in Spanish and try to make them lightweight and avoid JS because I know some of my visitors will have a hard time with it.
• oaiey 6y ago
  No. The rest of the world still is dominated by Android / Windows 10 years in. As long as Apple is not selling cheap devices, no chance that this changes.
• iagovar 6y ago
  It depends on the price. Apple products are rather expensive, and if you're poor you may not understand interoperability but you can see its effects. I'm very far from SV salaries for example, and although I can afford an Iphone or Imac, It's just a dangerous slope for my pockets. There are many countries poorer than mine.