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Can you share examples of Brave having a poor privacy record? I've recently switched to it as my main browser, enjoy using it and have recommended to others wh

Can you share examples of Brave having a poor privacy record? I've recently switched to it as my main browser, enjoy using it and have recommended to others who want to opt-out of the Google ecosystem. However, if there are examples of privacy abuse I may revisit.

d3nj4l 6y ago
Brave converted urls into affiliate links: https://www.coindesk.com/brave-browsers-affiliate-link-controversy-explained https://www.coindesk.com/brave-browsers-affiliate-link-contr... Vivaldi is a pretty good chromium-based browser, if you want to stay away from Google but still need chromium. I'd still take Firefox any day, though.
- midnitewarrior 6y ago
  Monitoring users without violating their privacy is the point of Brave. Affiliate links do not violate the integrity or the privacy of the browsing experience. These are great things, it keeps the browser free from cost while still protecting your privacy. It is how they continue to exist without financial support from Google.
  - dkdk8283 6y ago
    Every Google search/purchase through Firefox that can be attributed back to FF funds Mozilla. No different really.
  - jonathansampson 6y ago
    We should be careful with the "monitoring users" statement; no user data is sent to Brave. Any "monitoring" is done locally, by the browser itself. The browser doesn't pass user data off to Brave (the company) or any other third parties.
- UShouldBWorking 6y ago
  Talk about pearl clutching! How could you possibly even pretend to care about such a tiny issue when every google search is essentially doing the same when used on Apple products. But we both know your fear/hatred of Brave/Bitcoin has nothing to do with the users experience. It's just a talking point. When you get down to it HN will shit on Bitcoin and by extension Brave any chance they get. It doesn't have to make sense because these products exatentially threaten their income/ way of life.
- johnisgood 6y ago
  Yeah, so Vivaldi or Brave? Is Vivaldi slower than Brave? I used Vivaldi for a while but Brave was so much faster than Vivaldi for me. Could it be because of the loads of history and whatnot in Vivaldi? Maybe it is possible that I could make it much faster by just deleting everything apart from bookmarks. Edit: I deleted everything apart from cookies. Vivaldi feels much faster now. I think equally as fast as Brave.
  - johnisgood 6y ago
    Nevermind, Brave is actually much faster.
- mthoms 6y ago
  >Brave converted urls into affiliate links True, and they reversed course after (quite fairly) being called out on it. But, that incident has nothing to do with privacy.
- jonathansampson 6y ago
  Brave offered search suggestions [in the UI of the browser]. Our mistake was doing this for fully-qualified domains. We fixed that quickly. As for Vivaldi and Firefox, do me a favor and open either one. Search "hacker news" from the address bar, and check the resulting page. Firefox: google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=hacker+news Vivaldi: bing.com/search?FORM=INCOH2&PC=IFJ1&PTAG=ICO-c9d0fc87&q=hacker%20news Note how both of the browsers you suggested here added affiliate tags onto the URL. In Brave, the user could see the affiliate code before navigating. Not so in the browsers you suggest as "pretty good" and worth taking "any day".
UShouldBWorking 6y ago
It's just a nonsense talking point. HN hates Bitcoin and by extension, Brave. There is no good reason that I've been able to discover except it's very easy to hate things you don't understand.

d3nj4l 6y ago

Brave converted urls into affiliate links: https://www.coindesk.com/brave-browsers-affiliate-link-controversy-explained https://www.coindesk.com/brave-browsers-affiliate-link-contr... Vivaldi is a pretty good chromium-based browser, if you want to stay away from Google but still need chromium. I'd still take Firefox any day, though.

midnitewarrior 6y ago
Monitoring users without violating their privacy is the point of Brave. Affiliate links do not violate the integrity or the privacy of the browsing experience. These are great things, it keeps the browser free from cost while still protecting your privacy. It is how they continue to exist without financial support from Google.
- dkdk8283 6y ago
  Every Google search/purchase through Firefox that can be attributed back to FF funds Mozilla. No different really.
- jonathansampson 6y ago
  We should be careful with the "monitoring users" statement; no user data is sent to Brave. Any "monitoring" is done locally, by the browser itself. The browser doesn't pass user data off to Brave (the company) or any other third parties.
UShouldBWorking 6y ago
Talk about pearl clutching! How could you possibly even pretend to care about such a tiny issue when every google search is essentially doing the same when used on Apple products. But we both know your fear/hatred of Brave/Bitcoin has nothing to do with the users experience. It's just a talking point. When you get down to it HN will shit on Bitcoin and by extension Brave any chance they get. It doesn't have to make sense because these products exatentially threaten their income/ way of life.
johnisgood 6y ago
Yeah, so Vivaldi or Brave? Is Vivaldi slower than Brave? I used Vivaldi for a while but Brave was so much faster than Vivaldi for me. Could it be because of the loads of history and whatnot in Vivaldi? Maybe it is possible that I could make it much faster by just deleting everything apart from bookmarks. Edit: I deleted everything apart from cookies. Vivaldi feels much faster now. I think equally as fast as Brave.
- johnisgood 6y ago
  Nevermind, Brave is actually much faster.
mthoms 6y ago
>Brave converted urls into affiliate links True, and they reversed course after (quite fairly) being called out on it. But, that incident has nothing to do with privacy.
jonathansampson 6y ago
Brave offered search suggestions [in the UI of the browser]. Our mistake was doing this for fully-qualified domains. We fixed that quickly. As for Vivaldi and Firefox, do me a favor and open either one. Search "hacker news" from the address bar, and check the resulting page. Firefox: google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=hacker+news Vivaldi: bing.com/search?FORM=INCOH2&PC=IFJ1&PTAG=ICO-c9d0fc87&q=hacker%20news Note how both of the browsers you suggested here added affiliate tags onto the URL. In Brave, the user could see the affiliate code before navigating. Not so in the browsers you suggest as "pretty good" and worth taking "any day".

UShouldBWorking 6y ago

It's just a nonsense talking point. HN hates Bitcoin and by extension, Brave. There is no good reason that I've been able to discover except it's very easy to hate things you don't understand.