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The point is why on earth would you send essentially a SWAT team for such a warrant. And no, it's not unsurprising that the data used to back a warrant or pros

The point is why on earth would you send essentially a SWAT team for such a warrant. And no, it's not unsurprising that the data used to back a warrant or prosecution would be falsified. The US system is rife with all kinds of people being railroaded with shaky witness and cops lying about events.

colechristensen 6y ago
She didn’t let them in for twenty minutes, hung up on the phone and wouldn’t answer the door. That’s how you get officers fired up and concerned for their safety.
- int_19h 6y ago
  You don't need to "get officers fired up" to get them concerned for their safety to the detriment of basically everybody else - the training that they get from the likes of Dave Grossman is basically all about getting them "fired up" permanently. Numerous examples of cops going in guns blazing, shooting dogs that run away from them, shooting random people, throwing flashbangs like they are candy etc. Thing is, nothing that she is accused of requires this level of force, even if she's stalling. If they want her so bad, they can just starve her out.
  - colechristensen 6y ago
    None of that happened here, they didn't appear to use any force besides one officer maybe having his gun out. They stood outside knocking on the door for twenty minutes rather annoyed.
- foepys 6y ago
  > That’s how you get officers fired up and concerned for their safety. What a sad statement about the US. There is something fundamentally wrong when police has to be so afraid of a person without any violence charges that they bring in the same specialists they use to resolve hostage or active shooter situations.
  - colechristensen 6y ago
    But they didn't, this wasn't a SWAT team. They were all wearing short sleeves. At least one of them was wearing a bullet proof vest. You can watch the body cam video, the police are just annoyed.
zaroth 6y ago
There was no SWAT team. They rang the bell, stood outside her house, called her on the phone multiple times, and eventually resorted to... knocking loudly.

colechristensen 6y ago

She didn’t let them in for twenty minutes, hung up on the phone and wouldn’t answer the door. That’s how you get officers fired up and concerned for their safety.

int_19h 6y ago
You don't need to "get officers fired up" to get them concerned for their safety to the detriment of basically everybody else - the training that they get from the likes of Dave Grossman is basically all about getting them "fired up" permanently. Numerous examples of cops going in guns blazing, shooting dogs that run away from them, shooting random people, throwing flashbangs like they are candy etc. Thing is, nothing that she is accused of requires this level of force, even if she's stalling. If they want her so bad, they can just starve her out.
- colechristensen 6y ago
  None of that happened here, they didn't appear to use any force besides one officer maybe having his gun out. They stood outside knocking on the door for twenty minutes rather annoyed.
foepys 6y ago
> That’s how you get officers fired up and concerned for their safety. What a sad statement about the US. There is something fundamentally wrong when police has to be so afraid of a person without any violence charges that they bring in the same specialists they use to resolve hostage or active shooter situations.
- colechristensen 6y ago
  But they didn't, this wasn't a SWAT team. They were all wearing short sleeves. At least one of them was wearing a bullet proof vest. You can watch the body cam video, the police are just annoyed.

zaroth 6y ago

There was no SWAT team. They rang the bell, stood outside her house, called her on the phone multiple times, and eventually resorted to... knocking loudly.