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There's plenty of evidence that "common sense" is often wrong. If "common sense" is correct, it should be easy to provide a solid argument, backed up with data

There's plenty of evidence that "common sense" is often wrong. If "common sense" is correct, it should be easy to provide a solid argument, backed up with data, that shows the "common sense" view is correct. And I've repeatedly shown the details of poor waste management seeming to be the actual issue that needs to be addressed: https://ourworldindata.org/plastic-pollution https://ourworldindata.org/plastic-pollution

musicale 6y ago
> An estimated 20 percent of all plastic waste in the oceans comes from marine sources. In some regions, marine sources dominate: More than half of plastics in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch (GPGP) come from fishing nets, ropes and lines "Marine sources" is an interesting phrase but I assume it refers to human rather than natural sources - presumably the source of the nets is fishing vessels and there may be a lot of other plastic that is dropped or dumped from ships directly into the ocean: https://phys.org/news/2019-09-ocean-plastic-ships.html https://phys.org/news/2019-09-ocean-plastic-ships.html
- jamesrcole 6y ago
  That is my understanding as well.
conductr 6y ago
Common sense does not mean uninformed. Informed does not mean correct. Correct doesn’t mean right. You’re view is very black/white. This is the type of “is climate change real” argument that distracts people and governments for decades while big oil is doing it’s thing. Same thing happened with big tobacco. People centuries ago knew smoking was unhealthy but we didn’t have the science to prove it until 20th century. Were they wrong? Maybe right-wrong didn’t matter and not smoking was just the prudent action to take.
- jamesrcole 6y ago
  > Common sense does not mean uninformed. Informed does not mean correct. Correct doesn’t mean right. You’re view is very black/white. Don't put strawman words into my mouth. You know I said "There's plenty of evidence that "common sense" is often wrong." There is plenty of evidence that "common sense" is often wrong. You can pretty much say that the whole history of scientific advancements has been about challenging "common sense". I think you need to read a lot more about science and history.
  - conductr 6y ago
    I didn’t put word in your mouth. Every thing I said is from my point of view. Alas, I think you’re just here to argue. Bye
    - jamesrcole 6y ago
      You reply implied I had said things I didn’t.

musicale 6y ago

> An estimated 20 percent of all plastic waste in the oceans comes from marine sources. In some regions, marine sources dominate: More than half of plastics in the Great Pacific Garbage Patch (GPGP) come from fishing nets, ropes and lines "Marine sources" is an interesting phrase but I assume it refers to human rather than natural sources - presumably the source of the nets is fishing vessels and there may be a lot of other plastic that is dropped or dumped from ships directly into the ocean: https://phys.org/news/2019-09-ocean-plastic-ships.html https://phys.org/news/2019-09-ocean-plastic-ships.html

jamesrcole 6y ago
That is my understanding as well.

conductr 6y ago

Common sense does not mean uninformed. Informed does not mean correct. Correct doesn’t mean right. You’re view is very black/white. This is the type of “is climate change real” argument that distracts people and governments for decades while big oil is doing it’s thing. Same thing happened with big tobacco. People centuries ago knew smoking was unhealthy but we didn’t have the science to prove it until 20th century. Were they wrong? Maybe right-wrong didn’t matter and not smoking was just the prudent action to take.

jamesrcole 6y ago
> Common sense does not mean uninformed. Informed does not mean correct. Correct doesn’t mean right. You’re view is very black/white. Don't put strawman words into my mouth. You know I said "There's plenty of evidence that "common sense" is often wrong." There is plenty of evidence that "common sense" is often wrong. You can pretty much say that the whole history of scientific advancements has been about challenging "common sense". I think you need to read a lot more about science and history.
- conductr 6y ago
  I didn’t put word in your mouth. Every thing I said is from my point of view. Alas, I think you’re just here to argue. Bye
  - jamesrcole 6y ago
    You reply implied I had said things I didn’t.