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Glass bottles are arguably worse for the environment. More drink foundations where you bring your own bottle, and more convenient recycling options (smart bins
by dannyw 6y ago
Glass bottles are arguably worse for the environment.
More drink foundations where you bring your own bottle, and more convenient recycling options (smart bins everywhere that credit you 10c for every bottle you deposit... then raise this to 15c, 25c, etc).
- lend000 6y agoI imagine the 10c doesn't encourage as many people as a +1 public recycling score on one of your social media profiles would.
- stevekemp 6y agoIn Finland almost every single can, and drinks bottle, has a corresponding price printed on it, ranging from €0.10 to €0.25. You can return them at almost any local store and receive cash. There are hundreds of unemployed/retired/homeless people who scour parks, and the city centers, collecting these discarded containers and recycling them for the money. The return rate is pretty high, even with the tiny amount of money per-item.
- Jommi 6y agoHey students looking for extra cash do this often too!!
- Cloudef 6y agoNote that the "homeless" people in Finland are mainly people who refuse to accept support from the social welfare, this is because they prefer to get drunk instead of spending it on food and rent. The social welfare eventually suggests a different system for such people: pay the rent for them and give a special card that can be used for anything except alcohol and cigarette. If the people keep refusing that other option, then they went homeless on their own accord and keep spending the welfare on alcohol and living on the streets. Such people are very rare in Finland in reality however, but they do exist. There is also one woman [1] who for whatever reason chooses to live homeless with bunch of luggage. She doesn't drink at all, and keeps moving from town to town with all her luggage, by walking. Here's also a discussion about the Romanian beggars you see in Helsinki streets. [2] 1: https://shl.fi/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/IMG_2935.jpg https://shl.fi/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/IMG_2935.jpg 2: https://www.reddit.com/r/Finland/comments/79mqjs/question_about_beggars_in_finland/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Finland/comments/79mqjs/question_ab...
- IamZeroBalance 6y agoI heard that too! How I wish that my country will do the same thing.
- GloriousKoji 6y agoIt's cheaper both economically and energy-efficent to just produce new glass bottles rather than to sort, clean, crush and melt old ones.
- coin 6y agoWhy not clean then reuse the glass bottles (skipping crush, melt and fabricating)? This is what was done up until the 80s.
- carstenhag 6y agoThis is still done in Germany to a fairly large part, be it glass or reusable plastic bottles. An argument I've heard from the company producing one-time-plastic bottles for the Schwarz Group: - Lots of chemistry and treatment is needed to clean used bottles. - It is logistically more efficient to crush one-time-plastic bottles instead of moving around trucks with plastic bottles or heavy glass bottles.
- mulmen 6y agoLogistically more efficient but what about the complete environmental impact? Are they also considering the costs of disposing of this plastic? Aren't trucks driving around empty half the time anyway? Can the grocery truck just haul empties back to the distribution center where they are handed back to the trucks from the manufacturer?
- bogidon 6y agoI just started getting glass milk bottles in the store here in Arkansas that I can return for a $2 deposit. Very happy about this and hope it becomes more popular (again, well not sure if the US ever did it).
- jdkee 6y agoThat doesn’t take into account the economic costs Of a degraded environment or oceans gyres filled with plastic. It ignores the externalities.