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No. That wasn't the argument at all. It's that people aren't exactly stretching their imaginations to picture their phone ecosystem going to hell. They've all
by iguy 6y ago
No. That wasn't the argument at all.
It's that people aren't exactly stretching their imaginations to picture their phone ecosystem going to hell. They've all been there before, and have vivid memories of what they don't want.
They are also not crazy to have different preferences for a phone and for a desktop. Just like you have different preferences when selecting a hotel room vs a house.
- reader_mode 6y agoThe argument is nonsense because Apple decisions are not driven by security but are there to ensure they get a cut of every revenue stream on their platform. If this was just about security there would be a way to verify secure 3rd party payment processing methods - I trust Stripe as much as I trust Apple for example. And you wouldn't be forced to offer the same price on other platforms either. I don't mind personally I see the value they offer - they make products that are better overall for a large majority of consumers and their ecosystem just works for many use cases - it doesn't fit me particularly well but I see the value proposition. Pretending that these store policies are driven by security is nonsense, those kinds of arguments tick me off.
- iguy 6y agoWho's pretending they are "driven by security"? Clearly Apple wants to make money. The only argument being made is that some customers choose the walled garden because they want a telephone, not a part-time job keeping the weeds at bay. As you say, that's (a component of) what they are selling, and they do it because it sells (long-term, in their estimation).
- lern_too_spel 6y agoThe number of customers who chose an iPhone because it only lets them buy apps from Apple is a tiny fraction of the number of people who bought the device as a fashion accessory. What a strange thing to want. It makes little sense to think that Apple is catering to the tiny former group instead of simply extracting as much money as it can out of the latter group.
- edmundsauto 6y agoI don't think it's accurate or fair to ascribe motivations to Apple based on a relevant, yet arbitrary, line in the sand that you chose to draw.
- MereInterest 6y agoAbout a decade ago, I got an iPod Touch, on the basis that it would be a portable computer that I could hack around with. Instead I find that it was entirely locked down, and required permission to install any software. Heck, even the developers kit required a $100 license fee, which was outside of my hobbyist budget at the time. For my own device. The phone ecosystem has already gone to hell, and Apple paved the way there.
- djxfade 6y agoYou absolutely don't need to pay the $100 license fee to develop for iOS. That fee is just required for distribution
- joking 6y agoand to receive push notifications...
- saagarjha 6y agoAnd use certain APIs, like loading fonts…
- djxfade 6y agoYou certainly are able to load fonts on a self signed app, don't know where you got that information from.
- saagarjha 6y agoWe got a pull request from someone to enable the fonts entitlement, except they couldn't test it because it costed them money to do so. You can see so yourself here: https://help.apple.com/developer-account/#/dev21218dfd6 https://help.apple.com/developer-account/#/dev21218dfd6
- djxfade 6y ago