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Endangered Firefox: The State of Mozilla

13 points by CrankyBear 6y ago

thecrumb 6y ago
Why doesn't Mozilla offer a paid version? I use my browser more than any other application on my computer...
- backing 6y ago
  I'd like but not to Mozilla though, only to the dev teams.
iron0013 6y ago
I’ve been using some form of Firefox or its ancestors for 20 years, and I just cannot understand its decreasing popularity. In terms of performance, feature-richness, customizability, etc it seems to be superior to the more popular browsers. Can it really all be explained by the fact that it isn’t “pushed” by being an OS default (Edge, Safari) or by being suggested by the world’s most popular search engine (Chrome)? I don’t know what I’d do without Tree Style Tabs and the ability to irresponsibly open hundreds of tabs without worrying that the RAM usage is going to crash the browser!
- deleted 6y ago
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- desi_ninja 6y ago
  that's exactly the case. most browsers are now good enough that people don't seek out alternatives. also Google makes it super easy to integrate chrome into their ecosystem , moving out feels like a chore. Firefox needs a killer feature to get noticed. I think the Picture in picture mode comes closer but it needs something bigger
torstenvl 6y ago
I recently switched back to Firefox from Chrome. The reasons I switched to Chrome to begin with... - Firefox was slower - Worse, Firefox was laggier, with a drunk feeling when interacting with UI elements - Firefox became increasingly buggy. For about two years it was impossible to use Firefox with a PIV/CAC card on Mac (after they broke loading external security modules and before security.osclientcerts.autoload / security.enterprise_roots.enabled were stable) - Breaking webpages intentionally with "experiments" (Mr. Robot) - Forcing Pocket down your throat - Other similar user-hostile behavior I'm glad Firefox is better again, and I'm glad to be back on it, but it's a bit ridiculous to wage war on your users and then wonder why you lose market share.
sMarsIntruder 6y ago
Unfortunately the article talks about data collected using statistical instruments that are currently blocked by Firefox.

13 points by CrankyBear 6y ago

thecrumb 6y ago

Why doesn't Mozilla offer a paid version? I use my browser more than any other application on my computer...

backing 6y ago
I'd like but not to Mozilla though, only to the dev teams.

iron0013 6y ago

I’ve been using some form of Firefox or its ancestors for 20 years, and I just cannot understand its decreasing popularity. In terms of performance, feature-richness, customizability, etc it seems to be superior to the more popular browsers. Can it really all be explained by the fact that it isn’t “pushed” by being an OS default (Edge, Safari) or by being suggested by the world’s most popular search engine (Chrome)? I don’t know what I’d do without Tree Style Tabs and the ability to irresponsibly open hundreds of tabs without worrying that the RAM usage is going to crash the browser!

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desi_ninja 6y ago
that's exactly the case. most browsers are now good enough that people don't seek out alternatives. also Google makes it super easy to integrate chrome into their ecosystem , moving out feels like a chore. Firefox needs a killer feature to get noticed. I think the Picture in picture mode comes closer but it needs something bigger

torstenvl 6y ago

I recently switched back to Firefox from Chrome. The reasons I switched to Chrome to begin with... - Firefox was slower - Worse, Firefox was laggier, with a drunk feeling when interacting with UI elements - Firefox became increasingly buggy. For about two years it was impossible to use Firefox with a PIV/CAC card on Mac (after they broke loading external security modules and before security.osclientcerts.autoload / security.enterprise_roots.enabled were stable) - Breaking webpages intentionally with "experiments" (Mr. Robot) - Forcing Pocket down your throat - Other similar user-hostile behavior I'm glad Firefox is better again, and I'm glad to be back on it, but it's a bit ridiculous to wage war on your users and then wonder why you lose market share.

sMarsIntruder 6y ago

Unfortunately the article talks about data collected using statistical instruments that are currently blocked by Firefox.