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Apple: I can install whatever I want on my laptop, why can’t I do the same on my phone?

by baby 6y ago

silviot 6y ago
Oh, don't worry! They're probably working on it: soon you won't be able to install whatever you want on your laptop. Just making some unsubstantiated irony, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.
- kbenson 6y ago
  How far apart is an iPad Pro with a keyboard from the new MacBook Pro with the M1 chip? It seems pretty obvious they are converging to me. If they do converge, do you think Apple will start allowing MacOS on iPads, or will require MacBooks to run iOS and provide some virtualized OS emulation layer? I know what I'd put my money on, given lack of legal reasons in the future to force it another way.
  - TheOperator 6y ago
    MacOS on iPads won't happen anytime soon. Not so long as Apple can sell you two devices instead of one.
    - kbenson 6y ago
      LOL, that's actually a pretty good argument against them doing that. For now. :)
  - m463 6y ago
    It's like apple got set on a course... And they're on it... following it... and optimizing everything along the way... they're going to converge off the edge of a cliff and into the abyss.
chaostheory 6y ago
Why? Security and ensuring "It just works". Choice, freedom, and customization are enemies to both. We can see this in action with the last MacOS update. I'm not saying that I'm with either side, but these are the pros and cons. What I'm not seeing is, does iOS have even enough market share dominance to require regulation? From what I remember they only have around 15% of the market.
- redwall_hp 6y ago
  In the US, approximately 50% of smartphones in use are running iOS. It's lower globally, but the US market is the only one that matters when it comes to antitrust in the US.
- madeofpalk 6y ago
  "It just works" was a jingoism from before the iPhone existed. Do Macs not "work"?
  - meekrohprocess 6y ago
    They work fine, as long as you never update them within 3 weeks of a new OS release. And if Apple's authentication servers are up. Using them at work is a blessing and a curse.
  - dijit 6y ago
    > Do Macs not "work"? Not even close to as well as iPhones do. Speaking from personal experience I've had a few apps crash on my phone for sure, but overall it's the most "solid" computing experience I have ever had outside of Solaris. MacOS on the other hand? Frequently gets itself into a state where "WindowServer" is consuming half my memory, or some network kerfuffle stops me being able to reach anything for a few minutes, or it kernel panics. Not to mention the bloody updates which unlink GCC/CLANG but kinda keep it around which means I have to go clean my drive manually and crap. Ugh, exhausting. Sometimes I consider going back to linux for work honestly.
  - rdn 6y ago
    Not without various third-party adapters. Even then it's not a given that peripherals will work, or work consistently.
hnick 6y ago
What do you mean, your phone?

Apple: I can install whatever I want on my laptop, why can’t I do the same on my phone?

by baby 6y ago

Apple: I can install whatever I want on my laptop, why can’t I do the same on my phone?

Oh, don't worry! They're probably working on it: soon you won't be able to install whatever you want on your laptop. Just making some unsubstantiated irony, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

kbenson 6y ago
How far apart is an iPad Pro with a keyboard from the new MacBook Pro with the M1 chip? It seems pretty obvious they are converging to me. If they do converge, do you think Apple will start allowing MacOS on iPads, or will require MacBooks to run iOS and provide some virtualized OS emulation layer? I know what I'd put my money on, given lack of legal reasons in the future to force it another way.
- TheOperator 6y ago
  MacOS on iPads won't happen anytime soon. Not so long as Apple can sell you two devices instead of one.
  - kbenson 6y ago
    LOL, that's actually a pretty good argument against them doing that. For now. :)
- m463 6y ago
  It's like apple got set on a course... And they're on it... following it... and optimizing everything along the way... they're going to converge off the edge of a cliff and into the abyss.

chaostheory 6y ago

Why? Security and ensuring "It just works". Choice, freedom, and customization are enemies to both. We can see this in action with the last MacOS update. I'm not saying that I'm with either side, but these are the pros and cons. What I'm not seeing is, does iOS have even enough market share dominance to require regulation? From what I remember they only have around 15% of the market.

redwall_hp 6y ago
In the US, approximately 50% of smartphones in use are running iOS. It's lower globally, but the US market is the only one that matters when it comes to antitrust in the US.
madeofpalk 6y ago
"It just works" was a jingoism from before the iPhone existed. Do Macs not "work"?
- meekrohprocess 6y ago
  They work fine, as long as you never update them within 3 weeks of a new OS release. And if Apple's authentication servers are up. Using them at work is a blessing and a curse.
- dijit 6y ago
  > Do Macs not "work"? Not even close to as well as iPhones do. Speaking from personal experience I've had a few apps crash on my phone for sure, but overall it's the most "solid" computing experience I have ever had outside of Solaris. MacOS on the other hand? Frequently gets itself into a state where "WindowServer" is consuming half my memory, or some network kerfuffle stops me being able to reach anything for a few minutes, or it kernel panics. Not to mention the bloody updates which unlink GCC/CLANG but kinda keep it around which means I have to go clean my drive manually and crap. Ugh, exhausting. Sometimes I consider going back to linux for work honestly.
- rdn 6y ago
  Not without various third-party adapters. Even then it's not a given that peripherals will work, or work consistently.

hnick 6y ago

What do you mean, your phone?