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That's fine, use the App Store if you want! It's the fact that Apple doesn't let you, the owner of your phone and licensed user of iOS, take full advantage of

That's fine, use the App Store if you want! It's the fact that Apple doesn't let you, the owner of your phone and licensed user of iOS, take full advantage of what you purchased. The inability to side load apps you want to use outside of the App Store (or to use another app store) is an artificial limitation. It's created from greed or fear of competition from a better managed app store. I think what people are arguing for is a similar model to macOS. Have you ever heard anyone get mad that they were able to download apps outside of the App Store on macOS? No! You can use the App Store if you want, but you're still able to trust a third-party developer to use the device you purchased to it's full potential.

CubsFan1060 6y ago
"And that's fine, buy a device that doesn't have the walled garden feature!" (yes, feature here is a bit tongue in cheek) You know what other benefit I get from it? My parents, children, and friends who have iPhones have the same benefits. When my mom calls me for help, I know for sure where all her apps came from. I know that they've been at least somewhat vetted and come from a singular trusted source. I know that "some kid from school" didn't show my kid how to use this "cool other app store" where you can download "all kinds of free stuff". I have not yet had to help one of them get malware off of their iOS devices. My point here is that this has been the deal for over a decade. If you bought an iOS device, you knew the deal. This isn't new. Many of us bought it BECAUSE of these. And you may think that having access to other app stores doesn't affect me, but it does. At this point, I don't understand why people who don't like it are buying iOS devices. There are options out there that do exactly what you want. Why did you buy an option that doesn't have the features you want, and now you want to take away a feature many of us like?
- fbelzile 6y ago
  > My parents, children, and friends who have iPhones have the same benefits. Your parents are consenting adults. What makes you think your parents don't deserve to be trusted to use an app they want to use? As for children, just don't give out your Apple ID password. Children under 13 are not allowed to create accounts. > I have not yet had to help one of them get malware off of their iOS devices. This is a completely different issue. Apps can still be sand-boxed for security. > Why did you buy an option that doesn't have the features you want, and now you want to take away a feature many of us like? You have nothing to lose here. I really don't understand why you're still calling this a feature.

CubsFan1060 6y ago

"And that's fine, buy a device that doesn't have the walled garden feature!" (yes, feature here is a bit tongue in cheek) You know what other benefit I get from it? My parents, children, and friends who have iPhones have the same benefits. When my mom calls me for help, I know for sure where all her apps came from. I know that they've been at least somewhat vetted and come from a singular trusted source. I know that "some kid from school" didn't show my kid how to use this "cool other app store" where you can download "all kinds of free stuff". I have not yet had to help one of them get malware off of their iOS devices. My point here is that this has been the deal for over a decade. If you bought an iOS device, you knew the deal. This isn't new. Many of us bought it BECAUSE of these. And you may think that having access to other app stores doesn't affect me, but it does. At this point, I don't understand why people who don't like it are buying iOS devices. There are options out there that do exactly what you want. Why did you buy an option that doesn't have the features you want, and now you want to take away a feature many of us like?

fbelzile 6y ago
> My parents, children, and friends who have iPhones have the same benefits. Your parents are consenting adults. What makes you think your parents don't deserve to be trusted to use an app they want to use? As for children, just don't give out your Apple ID password. Children under 13 are not allowed to create accounts. > I have not yet had to help one of them get malware off of their iOS devices. This is a completely different issue. Apps can still be sand-boxed for security. > Why did you buy an option that doesn't have the features you want, and now you want to take away a feature many of us like? You have nothing to lose here. I really don't understand why you're still calling this a feature.