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I have not watched Black Mirror. In what way is it similar? Can someone condense it in a few lines?

by eznzt 6y ago

frereubu 6y ago
There's an episode where someone is forced to watch adverts for rewards, and they're harangued if they close their eyes. I can't remember the details, but it's the concept of explicitly selling your attention that caught my eye. It seems pretty dystopian to me.
- eznzt 6y ago
  It does not sound like the same thing if you are not forced to watch ads (I think you have to opt in to receive rewards). In fact what Brave does is they replace existing ads, iirc.
  - frereubu 6y ago
    It's not identical, hence "almost literally", but the notion of explicitly selling your attention to advertisers is getting pretty close in my eyes.
    - _red 6y ago
      Compared to how google treats you?
  - mthoms 6y ago
    Brave doesn't replace ads. You can do either, or both of: 1) Block existing ads (like any other ad blocker) 2) Opt in to Brave ads (which are served via system notifications). If you opt in, you can get "paid" in BAT. You can cash this out (from an exchange) or donate them to the sites you visit. Realistically, it will never be an amount worth cashing out, so I suspect most people donate it to the sites and content creators they like. Thats what I do anyways.
hans1729 6y ago
There is an episode where you essentially directly pay with attention. Each episode is different, often inducing "mind fuck" with respect to alternative futures based on differing societal or behavioral standards
jraph 6y ago
Each episode presents a dystopia based on an element of our current world, overstretched, in a way that makes you uncomfortable because it looks like we are almost there. And actually, some episodes have been realized since their release.
nojs 6y ago
In the episode “Fifteen Million Merits” the main character is fed ads on the walls of his bedroom and his eyes are tracked. If he wants the ads to stop and close his eyes in peace he has to pay a small fee each time.
- gfody 6y ago
  this would be after <attention token> has become the new fluid currency and you've gone deep into debt by paying more attention than you had
  - waterhouse 6y ago
    Well, the economy in general didn't make much sense in that episode. The people "working hard just to get by" spend all day on these bicycle things that generate power, but thermodynamically there's no way they could be producing more than what it costs to feed them. Nor do I recall any sort of education or training for actual careers going on. And that's not something I can entirely ignore, when "how empty everyone's lives are" is relevant to the general plot. Maybe they could have substituted some kind of factory assembly work, although that might have raised questions of why it's not automated.

I have not watched Black Mirror. In what way is it similar? Can someone condense it in a few lines?

by eznzt 6y ago

I have not watched Black Mirror. In what way is it similar? Can someone condense it in a few lines?

There's an episode where someone is forced to watch adverts for rewards, and they're harangued if they close their eyes. I can't remember the details, but it's the concept of explicitly selling your attention that caught my eye. It seems pretty dystopian to me.

eznzt 6y ago
It does not sound like the same thing if you are not forced to watch ads (I think you have to opt in to receive rewards). In fact what Brave does is they replace existing ads, iirc.
- frereubu 6y ago
  It's not identical, hence "almost literally", but the notion of explicitly selling your attention to advertisers is getting pretty close in my eyes.
  - _red 6y ago
    Compared to how google treats you?
- mthoms 6y ago
  Brave doesn't replace ads. You can do either, or both of: 1) Block existing ads (like any other ad blocker) 2) Opt in to Brave ads (which are served via system notifications). If you opt in, you can get "paid" in BAT. You can cash this out (from an exchange) or donate them to the sites you visit. Realistically, it will never be an amount worth cashing out, so I suspect most people donate it to the sites and content creators they like. Thats what I do anyways.

hans1729 6y ago

There is an episode where you essentially directly pay with attention. Each episode is different, often inducing "mind fuck" with respect to alternative futures based on differing societal or behavioral standards

jraph 6y ago

Each episode presents a dystopia based on an element of our current world, overstretched, in a way that makes you uncomfortable because it looks like we are almost there. And actually, some episodes have been realized since their release.

nojs 6y ago

In the episode “Fifteen Million Merits” the main character is fed ads on the walls of his bedroom and his eyes are tracked. If he wants the ads to stop and close his eyes in peace he has to pay a small fee each time.

gfody 6y ago
this would be after <attention token> has become the new fluid currency and you've gone deep into debt by paying more attention than you had
- waterhouse 6y ago
  Well, the economy in general didn't make much sense in that episode. The people "working hard just to get by" spend all day on these bicycle things that generate power, but thermodynamically there's no way they could be producing more than what it costs to feed them. Nor do I recall any sort of education or training for actual careers going on. And that's not something I can entirely ignore, when "how empty everyone's lives are" is relevant to the general plot. Maybe they could have substituted some kind of factory assembly work, although that might have raised questions of why it's not automated.