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Super interesting. I'm still excited and hopeful about Brave. It's got quite the whos-who leadership list[1]. Yan (bcrypt) is awesome. [1] https://brave.com/ab

Super interesting. I'm still excited and hopeful about Brave. It's got quite the whos-who leadership list[1]. Yan (bcrypt) is awesome. [1] https://brave.com/about/ https://brave.com/about/

kome 6y ago
they push for yet another closed model for remuneration, their effort doesn't really fix the web, it makes it worse. browser independence should be the first pillar of a real free web.
- fooey 6y ago
  They hijack ads to show their own ads. The only interesting thing about Brave is they haven't yet been sued into oblivion.
  - rhizome 6y ago
    On what basis could they be sued that wouldn't take out a) ad blockers; and consequently b) a user's ability to modify information displayed on their own computers?
  - rosywoozlechan 6y ago
    Content providers don't get to dictate what happens on my computer just because I accessed data from an HTTP server they made available to me. If I want Braze to replace their ads, that's my choice. I actually don't want it, but this argument that Braze is doing something wrong is stupid and ridiculous.
  - ketamine__ 6y ago
    > They hijack ads to show their own ads. This is 100% false. The opt-in ads are not injected into the page.
    - fooey 6y ago
      Huh, that was one of their original pitches, but I guess they changed their implementation at some point https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/mozilla-co-founder-unveils-brave-a-web-browser-that-blocks-ads-by-default/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/mozil...
      - mthoms 6y ago
        They did. Brave ads are opt-in only, and served via system notifications.
      - ketamine__ 6y ago
        They have talked about displaying ads in-page for publishers that opt in. But in that case why would the publisher display ads to Brave users? It doesn't sound like replacement to me.
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- fastball 6y ago
  How is a cryptocurrency that anyone can transact with a closed model??

Super interesting. I'm still excited and hopeful about Brave. It's got quite the whos-who leadership list[1]. Yan (bcrypt) is awesome. [1] https://brave.com/about/ https://brave.com/about/

kome 6y ago

they push for yet another closed model for remuneration, their effort doesn't really fix the web, it makes it worse. browser independence should be the first pillar of a real free web.

fooey 6y ago
They hijack ads to show their own ads. The only interesting thing about Brave is they haven't yet been sued into oblivion.
- rhizome 6y ago
  On what basis could they be sued that wouldn't take out a) ad blockers; and consequently b) a user's ability to modify information displayed on their own computers?
- rosywoozlechan 6y ago
  Content providers don't get to dictate what happens on my computer just because I accessed data from an HTTP server they made available to me. If I want Braze to replace their ads, that's my choice. I actually don't want it, but this argument that Braze is doing something wrong is stupid and ridiculous.
- ketamine__ 6y ago
  > They hijack ads to show their own ads. This is 100% false. The opt-in ads are not injected into the page.
  - fooey 6y ago
    Huh, that was one of their original pitches, but I guess they changed their implementation at some point https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/mozilla-co-founder-unveils-brave-a-web-browser-that-blocks-ads-by-default/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/mozil...
    - mthoms 6y ago
      They did. Brave ads are opt-in only, and served via system notifications.
    - ketamine__ 6y ago
      They have talked about displaying ads in-page for publishers that opt in. But in that case why would the publisher display ads to Brave users? It doesn't sound like replacement to me.
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fastball 6y ago
How is a cryptocurrency that anyone can transact with a closed model??