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>Working all night to meet a deadline is applicable. You learn dedication at university. It's not dedication. It's simply a deadline that you must meet or face

>Working all night to meet a deadline is applicable. You learn dedication at university. It's not dedication. It's simply a deadline that you must meet or face failure otherwise. >University also teaches you to take a risk on something long term. You pay a bunch of money, and work hard without compensation for a number of years, hoping it will pay off somehow. Your risk not making the grade and dropping out, losing the investment of time and money. Actually university is opposite of taking a risk. It's a safe choice. You get a degree - you get a good job. It's something that always drilled into everybody. Taking a risk is doing something that is opposite of common sense.

kazinator 6y ago
> You get a degree Not a given. A kid just has to walk down that hallway where the yearly grad photos hang, and take note of how less populated they are than just that one lecture he or she just came out of.
- simplyaccont 6y ago
  Well, with dedication that you mentioned above, or more realistically "persistence", pretty much given. Unless it's really not your thing and you switch to something different. But I personally won't know: I didn't graduate from high school, never got into university, yet now I am senior director level overseeing architecture at rather large company. I guess I made safe choice back in high school when I decided not to go to finals at math and instead to go to first day of full time employment with city level isp
  - kazinator 6y ago
    Yep; e.g., out of, say, 350 enrolled in first year, 300 might find it's "not their thing", eventually leaving a graduating class of 50. Or else, in some situations, the university finds that some of the students are "not its thing".
    - simplyaccont 6y ago
      and how many of those 300 "dropouts" will switch to "liberal arts" or something else, just because having a degree is a "proper choice that will help later in life" as opposed to really dropping out ?
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      - kaba0 6y ago
        That is absolutely irrelevant to the point.

kazinator 6y ago

> You get a degree Not a given. A kid just has to walk down that hallway where the yearly grad photos hang, and take note of how less populated they are than just that one lecture he or she just came out of.

simplyaccont 6y ago
Well, with dedication that you mentioned above, or more realistically "persistence", pretty much given. Unless it's really not your thing and you switch to something different. But I personally won't know: I didn't graduate from high school, never got into university, yet now I am senior director level overseeing architecture at rather large company. I guess I made safe choice back in high school when I decided not to go to finals at math and instead to go to first day of full time employment with city level isp
- kazinator 6y ago
  Yep; e.g., out of, say, 350 enrolled in first year, 300 might find it's "not their thing", eventually leaving a graduating class of 50. Or else, in some situations, the university finds that some of the students are "not its thing".
  - simplyaccont 6y ago
    and how many of those 300 "dropouts" will switch to "liberal arts" or something else, just because having a degree is a "proper choice that will help later in life" as opposed to really dropping out ?
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    - kaba0 6y ago
      That is absolutely irrelevant to the point.