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The lengths some people are willing to go to absolve FB of wrongdoing here are pretty incredible. Concretely, I'm sure the problem has been brought up plenty of

The lengths some people are willing to go to absolve FB of wrongdoing here are pretty incredible. Concretely, I'm sure the problem has been brought up plenty of times by plenty of people. However, the log out button got clogged up in the phlogiston at FB and they're having a hell of a time looking for it!

lovegoblin 6y ago
I think it's not an attempt at absolution so much as Hanlon's Razor.
- nitrogen 6y ago
  If anything I think the fact that organizations have an emergent "collective mind" that is semi-independent from any individual suggests that organizations should be held to an even higher standard of behavior than they have been.
  - Arelius 6y ago
    To be fair, I think the emergent "collective mind" is likely far stupider more instinctual than the minds of the individuals. (hence why considering incentive structures is important) That aside, I agree that yes, organizations should be held to a higher standard than they have been.
phkahler 6y ago
I suspect they were so caught up in the idiotic idea that you have to be logged in to Facebook to use the thing that they figured logging out would just make the thing useless, so why allow that? It still seems like having multiple users should have been thought about.
KaiserPro 6y ago
> absolve FB of wrongdoing much as it is trendy, you really have to think past the binary $company good/evil argument. My argument is as follows: 1) there is no logout button for your oculus account. Its not a flow that already exists. You need to factory-reset your device to log out. 2) the team that was put in charge of linking FB accounts to oculus are not the same team that owns the home screen gui. 3) working between teams is a hard problem 4) adding a logout flow is a boat load of work, because the rift os was never designed to do logging out, because why would you need to log out of an oculus device, barring cockups? Personally I think its a mistake to force linking accounts. I can see why they want it, it makes future multiplayer and AR integrations better.

lovegoblin 6y ago

I think it's not an attempt at absolution so much as Hanlon's Razor.

nitrogen 6y ago
If anything I think the fact that organizations have an emergent "collective mind" that is semi-independent from any individual suggests that organizations should be held to an even higher standard of behavior than they have been.
- Arelius 6y ago
  To be fair, I think the emergent "collective mind" is likely far stupider more instinctual than the minds of the individuals. (hence why considering incentive structures is important) That aside, I agree that yes, organizations should be held to a higher standard than they have been.

phkahler 6y ago

I suspect they were so caught up in the idiotic idea that you have to be logged in to Facebook to use the thing that they figured logging out would just make the thing useless, so why allow that? It still seems like having multiple users should have been thought about.

KaiserPro 6y ago

> absolve FB of wrongdoing much as it is trendy, you really have to think past the binary $company good/evil argument. My argument is as follows: 1) there is no logout button for your oculus account. Its not a flow that already exists. You need to factory-reset your device to log out. 2) the team that was put in charge of linking FB accounts to oculus are not the same team that owns the home screen gui. 3) working between teams is a hard problem 4) adding a logout flow is a boat load of work, because the rift os was never designed to do logging out, because why would you need to log out of an oculus device, barring cockups? Personally I think its a mistake to force linking accounts. I can see why they want it, it makes future multiplayer and AR integrations better.