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In a time that you could only get phone service from Bell. Now you have many vendors that sell Android based phones that you can choose if you want a wide open

In a time that you could only get phone service from Bell. Now you have many vendors that sell Android based phones that you can choose if you want a wide open market.

echelon 6y ago
The same market where Apple controls 50% under tight lock and key? And access to those consumers is controlled by a non-government entity for everything they do? All commerce impacting their entire life up and down the stack? Apple is the biggest monopoly since Ma Bell and Standard Oil. They're owning people. Whole entities. You have to go through Apple to do business with them.
- kolinko 6y ago
  I, for one, keep choosing iPhone exactly for this reason - I want only apple to control the app review process. Without this, you’d have every single major company pishing their own installers with a ton of crapware on top of them. To give an example - Epic on Windows requires you to install their own store, with their own update system and notifications, plus ads showing each time you open up their game. I don’t want this on my phone - battery aside, I want the device to be 100% secure, and such crapware has a poor track record of security. I’m really for strong antitrust laws - Google and Facebook are monopolosts who abuse their position. But in case of the phones, both users and devs have a choice - they can use either Apple or Google. Unless both companies are guilty of the same thing (and in this case they are not), how this is an issue?
- slinkyblack 6y ago
  Apple only controls 50% of the market because consumers keep buying their products. They are free to chose android, there are even plenty of androids phones are comparable in build quality and specs.
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  What 50% ?
- macjohnmcc 6y ago
  People who knew it is what it is right from the get go. They didn't do any bait and switch.
- adamcstephens 6y ago
  Apple is far from the biggest monopoly of today much less since the others. Amazon probably takes the cake, but Facebook and Google are right there too. Furthermore there are plenty of monopolies in non tech industries that do the same things.

In a time that you could only get phone service from Bell. Now you have many vendors that sell Android based phones that you can choose if you want a wide open market.

echelon 6y ago

The same market where Apple controls 50% under tight lock and key? And access to those consumers is controlled by a non-government entity for everything they do? All commerce impacting their entire life up and down the stack? Apple is the biggest monopoly since Ma Bell and Standard Oil. They're owning people. Whole entities. You have to go through Apple to do business with them.

kolinko 6y ago
I, for one, keep choosing iPhone exactly for this reason - I want only apple to control the app review process. Without this, you’d have every single major company pishing their own installers with a ton of crapware on top of them. To give an example - Epic on Windows requires you to install their own store, with their own update system and notifications, plus ads showing each time you open up their game. I don’t want this on my phone - battery aside, I want the device to be 100% secure, and such crapware has a poor track record of security. I’m really for strong antitrust laws - Google and Facebook are monopolosts who abuse their position. But in case of the phones, both users and devs have a choice - they can use either Apple or Google. Unless both companies are guilty of the same thing (and in this case they are not), how this is an issue?
slinkyblack 6y ago
Apple only controls 50% of the market because consumers keep buying their products. They are free to chose android, there are even plenty of androids phones are comparable in build quality and specs.
BlueTemplar 6y ago
What 50% ?
macjohnmcc 6y ago
People who knew it is what it is right from the get go. They didn't do any bait and switch.
adamcstephens 6y ago
Apple is far from the biggest monopoly of today much less since the others. Amazon probably takes the cake, but Facebook and Google are right there too. Furthermore there are plenty of monopolies in non tech industries that do the same things.