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I'm still using classic vim. Should I move over?

by qz2 6y ago

sojournerc 6y ago
what got me to switch was being able to run terminal commands in a buffer... https://neovim.io/doc/user/nvim_terminal_emulator.html https://neovim.io/doc/user/nvim_terminal_emulator.html
- gnubison 6y ago
  I don't use it that often (I just open up another terminal), but you can also use ^Z to put vi in the background. It would be more useful if I didn't always forget and open up a new vi which would refuse to write to the file :)
  - sojournerc 6y ago
    I honestly do both. When I'm running something I want the output from (some to yank), I'll run in a buffer. If doing file manipulation, CLI, etc. etc. I'll ctrl-z out. I do the opposite of you pretty often too, always trying to `fg` a non-existent vim
    - gnubison 6y ago
      Hmmm. I hadn't thought about being able to yank output from a command... That's a really good point. (Honestly I would probably use 'xsel -bi' and ':r !xsel -bo', but that's pretty ugly.)
- coliveira 6y ago
  You can use :terminal in vim.
  - sojournerc 6y ago
    it's optional for the build: https://vimhelp.org/terminal.txt.html https://vimhelp.org/terminal.txt.html
- garmaine 6y ago
  Serious question: why not just open another terminal?
  - AdamGibbins 6y ago
    The integration is nice, it behaves as a normal buffer. So you can use all the standard modes and motions, splits, copy output to another buffer easier etc.
    - garmaine 6y ago
      But modern terminals can do all that, with an editing mode that is tailored to terminal use rather than editing text. Sorry I just don't understand why I'd want to use a text editor as my command line.
      - AdamGibbins 6y ago
        They can't though, a modern terminal cannot behave as a vim buffer. You can't have 25% of your terminal as a shell and the other 75% vim, they can't split like that. I'm not aware of any terminal that allows integration with vim registers or use vim motions.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    You can use it as a normal buffer. Run command, switch to visual, go copy and paste. Way nicer than `:r !command`.
chapium 6y ago
Only if you want very specific plugins.
- ComputerGuru 6y ago
  Not really. vi doesn’t have some very basic motions that are supported by (n)vim out of the box.

I'm still using classic vim. Should I move over?

by qz2 6y ago

I'm still using classic vim. Should I move over?

what got me to switch was being able to run terminal commands in a buffer... https://neovim.io/doc/user/nvim_terminal_emulator.html https://neovim.io/doc/user/nvim_terminal_emulator.html

gnubison 6y ago
I don't use it that often (I just open up another terminal), but you can also use ^Z to put vi in the background. It would be more useful if I didn't always forget and open up a new vi which would refuse to write to the file :)
- sojournerc 6y ago
  I honestly do both. When I'm running something I want the output from (some to yank), I'll run in a buffer. If doing file manipulation, CLI, etc. etc. I'll ctrl-z out. I do the opposite of you pretty often too, always trying to `fg` a non-existent vim
  - gnubison 6y ago
    Hmmm. I hadn't thought about being able to yank output from a command... That's a really good point. (Honestly I would probably use 'xsel -bi' and ':r !xsel -bo', but that's pretty ugly.)
coliveira 6y ago
You can use :terminal in vim.
- sojournerc 6y ago
  it's optional for the build: https://vimhelp.org/terminal.txt.html https://vimhelp.org/terminal.txt.html
garmaine 6y ago
Serious question: why not just open another terminal?
- AdamGibbins 6y ago
  The integration is nice, it behaves as a normal buffer. So you can use all the standard modes and motions, splits, copy output to another buffer easier etc.
  - garmaine 6y ago
    But modern terminals can do all that, with an editing mode that is tailored to terminal use rather than editing text. Sorry I just don't understand why I'd want to use a text editor as my command line.
    - AdamGibbins 6y ago
      They can't though, a modern terminal cannot behave as a vim buffer. You can't have 25% of your terminal as a shell and the other 75% vim, they can't split like that. I'm not aware of any terminal that allows integration with vim registers or use vim motions.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  You can use it as a normal buffer. Run command, switch to visual, go copy and paste. Way nicer than `:r !command`.

chapium 6y ago

Only if you want very specific plugins.

ComputerGuru 6y ago
Not really. vi doesn’t have some very basic motions that are supported by (n)vim out of the box.