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Red Hat ships source publicly, but not binaries. http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/8Base/en/RHOS/SRPMS/ http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterpri

Red Hat ships source publicly, but not binaries. http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/8Base/en/RHOS/SRPMS/ http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/8Base/en/RHOS/...

mastre_ 6y ago
Is there anything to stop RH from not continuing to make these publicly available, since their intent is to stop the exact itch CentOS scratched?
- rnd0 6y ago
  There's nothing to stop them, no. But that wouldn't change that they have to make the sources available to their customers -and it takes one customer to get the source and provide it for a fork.
  - EvanAnderson 6y ago
    But if getting caught making further distribution of RHEL causes a Customer to lose their support contract then the Customers would be unlikely to do so.
    - benlivengood 6y ago
      One could hypothetically buy an unwanted cheap support contract to get access to the source.
  - mastre_ 6y ago
    I guess what I am trying to say is that perhaps it's an inherently flawed model as evidenced but what just happened and, going forward, we should rid ourselves of such ties. At the end of the day, we're talking about a super stable server distro with LTS. While many things are easier said than done, I believe this is important enough to the community that it could happen. My main concern with such a distro is security, a team developers providing security patches would be the most critical part of such an entity. Hopefully before CentOS 7 goes dark in 2024 there will be viable alternatives. Right now, having to compile against custom libs not shipped with the distro (for example, modern OpenSSL) is a small price to pay for having another 3 years left to decide on best course of action to get off CentOS. Still, it's a terrible position to be in for those who upgraded to CentOS 8 already (as we were just about to do).
EvanAnderson 6y ago
That answers my question. I had no idea RedHat freely distributed the source to non-subscribers. Of course, they are under no obligation to distribute that to the public.
- jlawer 6y ago
  No, but since they have no cost trial and developer options, its basically easier then managing who gets access to what, as anyone who gets those no cost versions are entitled to the source for those packages.
mroche 6y ago
RHOS is OpenStack. The only two ways two get RHEL 8 sources are from your account’s download page (very tedious) or to use the *-source-rpms repos (reposync/manually) that are available with your subscription.

Red Hat ships source publicly, but not binaries. http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/8Base/en/RHOS/SRPMS/ http://ftp.redhat.com/redhat/linux/enterprise/8Base/en/RHOS/...

mastre_ 6y ago

Is there anything to stop RH from not continuing to make these publicly available, since their intent is to stop the exact itch CentOS scratched?

rnd0 6y ago
There's nothing to stop them, no. But that wouldn't change that they have to make the sources available to their customers -and it takes one customer to get the source and provide it for a fork.
- EvanAnderson 6y ago
  But if getting caught making further distribution of RHEL causes a Customer to lose their support contract then the Customers would be unlikely to do so.
  - benlivengood 6y ago
    One could hypothetically buy an unwanted cheap support contract to get access to the source.
- mastre_ 6y ago
  I guess what I am trying to say is that perhaps it's an inherently flawed model as evidenced but what just happened and, going forward, we should rid ourselves of such ties. At the end of the day, we're talking about a super stable server distro with LTS. While many things are easier said than done, I believe this is important enough to the community that it could happen. My main concern with such a distro is security, a team developers providing security patches would be the most critical part of such an entity. Hopefully before CentOS 7 goes dark in 2024 there will be viable alternatives. Right now, having to compile against custom libs not shipped with the distro (for example, modern OpenSSL) is a small price to pay for having another 3 years left to decide on best course of action to get off CentOS. Still, it's a terrible position to be in for those who upgraded to CentOS 8 already (as we were just about to do).

EvanAnderson 6y ago

That answers my question. I had no idea RedHat freely distributed the source to non-subscribers. Of course, they are under no obligation to distribute that to the public.

jlawer 6y ago
No, but since they have no cost trial and developer options, its basically easier then managing who gets access to what, as anyone who gets those no cost versions are entitled to the source for those packages.

mroche 6y ago

RHOS is OpenStack. The only two ways two get RHEL 8 sources are from your account’s download page (very tedious) or to use the *-source-rpms repos (reposync/manually) that are available with your subscription.