> Of course not, but we have instead build up a society, both around industrialized food and sedentary lifestyles, that is basically geared to make people fat.

> Of course not, but we have instead build up a society, both around industrialized food and sedentary lifestyles, that is basically geared to make people fat. This is why I said you need willpower and discipline. These are some of the reasons that make them needed for the average person to stay fit. > "discipline and willpower" may work for any one individual, it is completely useless as societal-wide advice This is why I address individual readers on HN. I'm not interested in fixing society, but I'm happy to offer my personal experiences if it can help one person out there. There are plenty of people nowadays who combat the idea of accountability, and if that helps others, then great. I believe in accountability, discipline, willpower, etc, and I offer my perspective for others who believe the same