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For the uninitiated but happy Fedora user, may I ask if I will see any consequences?

jsight 6y ago
I wouldn't expect any. It seems like Fedora will still be the upstream for major RHEL releases. This is more like a rawhide for RHEL from my perspective.
- dralley 6y ago
  Rawhide is a bad comparison to use. CentOS Stream will never get any major fundamental changes to the system like Rawhide does on a regular basis. It's technically rolling release compared to RHEL, but the window of acceptable changes is very small. It's not like Arch and Rawhide and Debian Testing where major OS components can be swapped out under your feet. The majority of the changes would fall into the categories of bugfix backports, backports of extremely useful/important features, and backports of support for new hardware.
aritmo 6y ago
Old CentOS has been damaging their bottom line, because it was a valid RHEL replacement. Is there a desktop RHEL? If there is, then Fedora may be used to test software, therefore the stability will suffer.
- cooljacob204 6y ago
  Has it though? How many companies have moved from centos to RHEL?
  - op00to 6y ago
    Companies constantly find themselves in the position to move from CentOS to RHEL.
- dralley 6y ago
  Yes, RHEL Workstation exists. Not sure I understand your point though?
rodgerd 6y ago
In LWN coverage, it's clear CentOS is the new upstream for RHEL. It will only be a matter of time before IBM decide money spent on Fedora is wasted.
- mroche 6y ago
  This is not even remotely what the announcement is implying. CentOS is the new upstream for RHEL minor releases. Fedora is and will continue to be the the RHEL upstream for major releases. Lifecycle of RHEL: Fedora | Enterprise Linux Next* | HARD FORK for next RHEL | Centos Stream (Pre-release phase) | RHEL Major release | CentOS Stream | RHEL Minor release Those last two will loop until the RHEL full support phase (first 5 years) are over, at which point Stream will end due to there being no more minor releases. Any consumers of Stream will need to migrate to the next major version of Stream. Stream will have effectively 6 years of support (5 + 1 year pre-release), and RHEL will be releasing major versions every 3 years. Considering new technology and design decisions aren't incubated at all in CentOS, it is in no way shape or form possible to use it to replace Fedora. * ELN: Fedora Rawhide with RHEL buildroot context.

I wouldn't expect any. It seems like Fedora will still be the upstream for major RHEL releases. This is more like a rawhide for RHEL from my perspective.

dralley 6y ago
Rawhide is a bad comparison to use. CentOS Stream will never get any major fundamental changes to the system like Rawhide does on a regular basis. It's technically rolling release compared to RHEL, but the window of acceptable changes is very small. It's not like Arch and Rawhide and Debian Testing where major OS components can be swapped out under your feet. The majority of the changes would fall into the categories of bugfix backports, backports of extremely useful/important features, and backports of support for new hardware.

aritmo 6y ago

Old CentOS has been damaging their bottom line, because it was a valid RHEL replacement. Is there a desktop RHEL? If there is, then Fedora may be used to test software, therefore the stability will suffer.

cooljacob204 6y ago
Has it though? How many companies have moved from centos to RHEL?
- op00to 6y ago
  Companies constantly find themselves in the position to move from CentOS to RHEL.
dralley 6y ago
Yes, RHEL Workstation exists. Not sure I understand your point though?

rodgerd 6y ago

In LWN coverage, it's clear CentOS is the new upstream for RHEL. It will only be a matter of time before IBM decide money spent on Fedora is wasted.

mroche 6y ago
This is not even remotely what the announcement is implying. CentOS is the new upstream for RHEL minor releases. Fedora is and will continue to be the the RHEL upstream for major releases. Lifecycle of RHEL: Fedora | Enterprise Linux Next* | HARD FORK for next RHEL | Centos Stream (Pre-release phase) | RHEL Major release | CentOS Stream | RHEL Minor release Those last two will loop until the RHEL full support phase (first 5 years) are over, at which point Stream will end due to there being no more minor releases. Any consumers of Stream will need to migrate to the next major version of Stream. Stream will have effectively 6 years of support (5 + 1 year pre-release), and RHEL will be releasing major versions every 3 years. Considering new technology and design decisions aren't incubated at all in CentOS, it is in no way shape or form possible to use it to replace Fedora. * ELN: Fedora Rawhide with RHEL buildroot context.