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Mail-in voting really feels crazy from other countries. Just check why it was banned in France : https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/57152/why-isnt-mai
by arkh 6y ago
Mail-in voting really feels crazy from other countries. Just check why it was banned in France : https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/57152/why-isnt-mail-in-voting-allowed-in-france https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/57152/why-isnt-...
"For context, electoral fraud was and is more prevalent in Corsica than in the rest of the country. The article goes on to mention that in Ajaccio (the largest city in Corsica), one list had obtained 33.5% of the physical votes but 90% of the mail-in votes in the first round, and similar figures in the second round."
Doesn't it feel familiar?
> Here also — observers generally agree on this point — mail-in voting is one of the preferred methods for fraud. The idea of removing mail-in voting and replacing it by proxy voting has therefore been generally admitted in the [parliamentary] legal commission.
Also the counting from some distant area with opaque machines and the fact not everyone is authorized to check the count is ripe for abuse.
- quadrifoliate 6y ago> Mail-in voting really feels crazy from other countries. Just check why it was banned in France This feel vaguely concern troll-y, but I'll engage. I am sure that there are valid security concerns, and some possibilities for fraud with mail-in voting. However the argument about "Oh look it's bad, there are so many possibilities for fraud" would look a little more okay if the President wasn't engaging in it [1] and his party wasn't also quietly pushing for more of it in areas where it benefits them. Of course they find some flimsy excuse to justify this “well, ours is called an absentee ballot because you have to request it”. You can't have it both ways. If mail-in voting feels crazy, the 2016 election where like 25% of eligible voters voted by mail should also be considered invalid. What is not okay is crying "Fraud" in nebulously defined ways for only the states you lost at the moment you start losing with the existing system. This is basic kindergarten stuff, so it's kind of funny that it has to be explicitly explained in such a big national event. ------------------------------------ [1] https://www.npr.org/2020/08/19/903886567/trump-while-attacking-mail-voting-casts-mail-ballot-again https://www.npr.org/2020/08/19/903886567/trump-while-attacki... [2] https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/republicans-mail-in-voting-trump-398774 https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/republicans-mail-in...
- arkh 6y ago> You can't have it both ways. If mail-in voting feels crazy, the 2016 election where like 25% of eligible voters voted by mail should also be considered invalid. And those before. It's like most things are done in a way to make it possible to fudge results.