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> ...it's understandable why people are upset. If Red Hat had made this decision earlier (i.e., making CentOS 7 the last version), or made good on their promis
by gwd 6y ago
> ...it's understandable why people are upset. If Red Hat had made this decision earlier (i.e., making CentOS 7 the last version), or made good on their promise to support CentOS 8, I doubt there would be anywhere near as much outrage.
Yes, they certainly broke their public commitment; I totally agree that they should have either announced that there would be no CentOS 8 from the beginning, or announced that CentOS 8 would be the last such beast, and after that CentOS would be stream-only. And it would be totally reasonable for the rest of us to take RedHat's other public commitments with a grain of salt from now on.
But that doesn't rise to the level of "betrayal" to me. To me, betrayal implies a stronger sense of obligation -- generally from mutual dependence. I just don't think that organizations have that much obligation to people who are consuming their loss-leader. (See also Travis-ci.)
- op00to 6y agoWhere is this commitment written?
- theevilsharpie 6y ago> Where is this commitment written? In the public documentation describing CentOS's life cycle, CentOS 8 was described as being supported until May 31st, 2029. Upon the announcement of CentOS's change of direction, this was changed to December 31st, 2021. You can see the commit diff here: https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product?action=diff&rev1=123&rev2=122 https://wiki.centos.org/About/Product?action=diff&rev1=123&r...
- op00to 6y agoNot on redhat.com or done by a red hat employee? I see.
- theevilsharpie 6y agoThe CentOS project and all of its assets (including its web site) are owned and managed by Red Hat, and the person that made the commit changing the documented end-of-life date -- Rich Bowen -- is a Red Hat employee with an @redhat.com email address.
- op00to 6y agoThe person who changed the date to 2021 is @redhat.com. Who put the 2029 date on the wiki?