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What are you talking about? Pelosi was encouraging people to go out and visit Chinatown in February, while Trump was talking about shutting down travel from Ch

What are you talking about? Pelosi was encouraging people to go out and visit Chinatown in February, while Trump was talking about shutting down travel from China in January. Which one of those approaches sounds like containment to you?

_jgdh 6y ago
How racist do you have to be to equate people in Chinatown with the virus? At a time when there were less than 10 cases in the US, the risk of visiting Chinatown was minimal. And it's curious that you focus on Chinatown in February instead of 300 days of minimising mask wearing and calling for LIBERATING states from coronavirus restrictions.
- leovingi 6y ago
  Yes, I was obviously being racist instead of talking about decreasing the amount of people going out to restaurants and other public places, which is the main focus of the current containment measures all around the Western world. And if you think that one set of containment measures is better than another (masks vs shutting down travel vs closing down public places), then that's a separate discussion to OP's comment who clearly stated that one political party tried to contain it while the other one did not, which is complete tribal nonsense. PS - you should apologize for the racism comment.
DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
Neither sounds like containment to me. Shutting down flights from China was for show. The virus was already spreading inside the US, and infected people continued to fly in from Europe. Trump's brand is being tough on borders, so he shut down travel from China, declared victory, and then did nothing. Months later, after nearly 300k confirmed deaths, Trump still boasts about closing down travel from China - one minimally impactful measure he took early on. Here's what real containment would have been in late January and early February: ramping up testing and contact tracing as quickly as possible, maybe even locking down cities and grounding flights. That might have been politically impossible back then, but Trump wasn't pushing in that direction at all. He was worried about reassuring the markets.

_jgdh 6y ago

How racist do you have to be to equate people in Chinatown with the virus? At a time when there were less than 10 cases in the US, the risk of visiting Chinatown was minimal. And it's curious that you focus on Chinatown in February instead of 300 days of minimising mask wearing and calling for LIBERATING states from coronavirus restrictions.

leovingi 6y ago
Yes, I was obviously being racist instead of talking about decreasing the amount of people going out to restaurants and other public places, which is the main focus of the current containment measures all around the Western world. And if you think that one set of containment measures is better than another (masks vs shutting down travel vs closing down public places), then that's a separate discussion to OP's comment who clearly stated that one political party tried to contain it while the other one did not, which is complete tribal nonsense. PS - you should apologize for the racism comment.

DiogenesKynikos 6y ago

Neither sounds like containment to me. Shutting down flights from China was for show. The virus was already spreading inside the US, and infected people continued to fly in from Europe. Trump's brand is being tough on borders, so he shut down travel from China, declared victory, and then did nothing. Months later, after nearly 300k confirmed deaths, Trump still boasts about closing down travel from China - one minimally impactful measure he took early on. Here's what real containment would have been in late January and early February: ramping up testing and contact tracing as quickly as possible, maybe even locking down cities and grounding flights. That might have been politically impossible back then, but Trump wasn't pushing in that direction at all. He was worried about reassuring the markets.