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Awesome if proton can make something like cyberpunk work on day 1, why not others? Why do they have to pretend theirs is some mythical special sauce unable to w

Awesome if proton can make something like cyberpunk work on day 1, why not others? Why do they have to pretend theirs is some mythical special sauce unable to work on Linux ? That said, why don't these mmo games give a Linux mode ? Pubg for example has mobile app, a lite app and a desktop lite app based on mobile. They are the same but they are matched with similar people only. Apply the same here. Give Linux users option to play the game, without the anti cheat and only match with similar Linux users. I get to deal with any potential cheaters

kaibee 6y ago
Cyberpunk 2077 is a single-player game.
SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago
Because they put approximately 0 thought or care in to supporting linux. There are hardly any linux users who would have got the game anyway compared to windows and half of them will still buy it and reboot to play it.
phendrenad2 6y ago
> some mythical special sauce unable to work on Linux I think it's the other way around, if you have a software company full of Windows and console programmers, you now need to get some of them to learn how to build and deploy a binary Linux app that runs on all major Linux distros and configurations, or you need to hire some who already can. How many game engine/deploy developer salaries can you afford on the income from all of the Linux users?
- 2Gkashmiri 6y ago
  there was last time an appimage thing where they packaged a specific working wine and it should work everywhere all the time
  - phendrenad2 6y ago
    According to ProtonDB, 40% of the top 10 games are "borked". So if Proton is a serious attempt at making everything work, why do 40% of the top 10 games still not work at all? Clearly there are some Windows APIs which WINE/Proton can't emulate yet. So now your developers have to specifically avoid those syscalls and system libraries. What if a third-party library you want to use uses those syscalls? Now you need to work with the vendor to get them changed. Okay... as if that isn't bad enough... Only 20% of the top 10 games are "gold" meaning they work 100% correctly, with some tweaks. Okay, so now you have to tell users what those tweaks are, or they might refund. Never mess with an angry Linux user! And then, 20% of games work "okay" meaning there are glitches that don't affect gameplay. But... you now have to field support calls from users who see these glitches and think their game is borked. And if you're wondering why I went with the "top 10" list and not the "top hundred", it's because most Linux gamers I've seen complaining about the lack of Linux ports are complaining about the AAA top 10 games, not the simplistic 2D tower defense games. Packaging a game that already works great in Proton is beside the point.
jhasse 6y ago
PUBG - a game where you need at least 50 players for a match - would be quiet empty when you're only playing with Linux players.
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  Why would you assume that they wouldn't be able to play with Windows players??
  - jhasse 6y ago
    OP said: > Give Linux users option to play the game, without the anti cheat and only match with similar Linux users.

kaibee 6y ago

Cyberpunk 2077 is a single-player game.

SulfurHexaFluri 6y ago

Because they put approximately 0 thought or care in to supporting linux. There are hardly any linux users who would have got the game anyway compared to windows and half of them will still buy it and reboot to play it.

phendrenad2 6y ago

> some mythical special sauce unable to work on Linux I think it's the other way around, if you have a software company full of Windows and console programmers, you now need to get some of them to learn how to build and deploy a binary Linux app that runs on all major Linux distros and configurations, or you need to hire some who already can. How many game engine/deploy developer salaries can you afford on the income from all of the Linux users?

2Gkashmiri 6y ago
there was last time an appimage thing where they packaged a specific working wine and it should work everywhere all the time
- phendrenad2 6y ago
  According to ProtonDB, 40% of the top 10 games are "borked". So if Proton is a serious attempt at making everything work, why do 40% of the top 10 games still not work at all? Clearly there are some Windows APIs which WINE/Proton can't emulate yet. So now your developers have to specifically avoid those syscalls and system libraries. What if a third-party library you want to use uses those syscalls? Now you need to work with the vendor to get them changed. Okay... as if that isn't bad enough... Only 20% of the top 10 games are "gold" meaning they work 100% correctly, with some tweaks. Okay, so now you have to tell users what those tweaks are, or they might refund. Never mess with an angry Linux user! And then, 20% of games work "okay" meaning there are glitches that don't affect gameplay. But... you now have to field support calls from users who see these glitches and think their game is borked. And if you're wondering why I went with the "top 10" list and not the "top hundred", it's because most Linux gamers I've seen complaining about the lack of Linux ports are complaining about the AAA top 10 games, not the simplistic 2D tower defense games. Packaging a game that already works great in Proton is beside the point.

jhasse 6y ago

PUBG - a game where you need at least 50 players for a match - would be quiet empty when you're only playing with Linux players.

BlueTemplar 6y ago
Why would you assume that they wouldn't be able to play with Windows players??
- jhasse 6y ago
  OP said: > Give Linux users option to play the game, without the anti cheat and only match with similar Linux users.