> nobody would want to live someplace where they democratically invest in their community (i.e., pay taxes) I don't think anybody has a problem with investing

> nobody would want to live someplace where they democratically invest in their community (i.e., pay taxes) I don't think anybody has a problem with investing in their community, but when there's no return on an investment you cut your losses and move on. Tent cities, rolling blackouts, no healthcare, no public transportation. What are you getting for the taxes? I moved to Hong Kong this year. Public health care, amazing public transportation, no tent cities[1], and the top tax rate is 17%. It's not perfect, but this idea that the solution to every societal problem is just to pay more and more taxes is nonsense. California has the highest taxes in the country. If the quality of life there is worse than in states with lower taxes, then it's time to start questioning how that tax money is spent, not shovel more of it into a black hole that isn't doing anything. [1] I won't say there's no homeless, because I don't know that for sure, but there are hardly any panhandlers. I know there is subsidized housing available, but I hear the wait list is long. Whatever they're doing, there's hardly any homeless on the streets.