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The OP has: "Yesterday was the safe harbor deadline for the U.S. Presidential election and enough states have certified their election results to determine a P
by graycat 6y ago
The OP has:
"Yesterday was the safe harbor deadline for
the U.S. Presidential election and enough
states have certified their election
results to determine a President-elect.
Given that, we will start removing any
piece of content uploaded today (or
anytime after) that misleads people by
alleging that widespread fraud or errors
changed the outcome of the 2020 U.S.
Presidential election, in line with our
approach towards historical U.S.
Presidential elections."
I've paid fairly close attention to the
claims of fraud, and nowhere have I seen
claims of "widespread fraud".
It is simply that, just from some simple
arithmetic, "widespread fraud" was not
necessary to have "changed the outcome of
the 2020 U.S. Presidential election".
Instead it was quite sufficient to have
fraud in one or two cities in just the six
swing states PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, and GA.
Just 10 cities is enough, and that is not
"widespread".
For
"Yesterday was the safe harbor deadline
for the U.S. Presidential election and
enough states have certified their
election results to determine a
President-elect."
That statement is not the most important
possible: Instead, what the states do to
"certify" is not the last word. Instead
there is in the Constitution:
"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner
as the Legislature thereof may direct, a
Number of Electors, ..."
So, in each state, the legislature STILL
has the final authority. Supposedly this
point was tested in the SCOTUS in 1892 and
2000 or some such.
Mayor Giuliani claims to have lots of
solid evidence of fraud in the form of
hundreds of signed affidavits in each of
several of the six states and with enough
fraud to have converted a Trump win to an
apparent Biden win. By now legislatures
in several of the six states have seen at
least an overview of Giuliani's evidence.
Still, AFAIK, no legislature has taken the
Constitutional power to "direct" and
"appoint" their state's electors. Some of
those legislatures still could "direct"
and "appoint".
It appears that going directly to the
state legislatures, that is, just
f'getting about all the courts except
possibly the SCOTUS, could be sufficient.
The way I read the Constitution, each
state legislature can take the power to
"direct" and "appoint" without regard for
the state constitution, the state laws,
the state governor, secretary of state,
AG, or board of elections and without need
for the governor to *call the legislature
into session". Net, anytime before the
Electoral College votes, some states
legislatures could still "appoint"
electors that could cause Trump to win.
If there was fraud that threw the
election, then as citizens we darned
better well get to the bottom of it before
1/20/2021.
Some of the alleged fraud is just old
fashioned ballot box stuffing. We really
SHOULD be able to settle such claims
solidly, for or against.
Fraud that changes an election for POTUS
is a threat to our rule of law,
Constitution, democracy, and country. We
need a solid answer.
IMHO, Youtube should encourage full debate
of these points. As it is, it appears
that Youtube doesn't want videos of Trump,
Giuliani, or Justices of the SCOTUS -- not
so good.