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You can't say "the democrats" were claimed ng fraud. As far as I am aware, no major democrat questioned the legitimacy of the election or claimed widespread fr
by enkid 6y ago
You can't say "the democrats" were claimed ng fraud. As far as I am aware, no major democrat questioned the legitimacy of the election or claimed widespread fraud. Iirc, the only notable person who claimed widespread fraud in 2016 was Trump himself, so stop claiming equivalency here.
- betwixthewires 6y agoI would say "Trump won only because Russia interfered in the election" is a direct, explicit claim that the election was illegitimate. I'm not saying I disbelieve it or that I believe the current claims of fraud, but there is a clear equivalency here.
- enkid 6y agoSaying that Russian hacking influenced the election is demonstrably true. Whether it caused Trump to win is not. I don't remember anyone actually saying that Trump would not have won without Russia, though I could be wrong about that. This is still a big difference between that and calling millions of votes, lawfully cast, as illegitimate. Do you seriously not see the distinction between the two?
- betwixthewires 6y agoI don't see the distinction you're making. There are plenty of differences between the two scenarios, but "only one of those is a claim that the election is illegitimate" is not one of the differences IMO.