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There were many calls by Democrats for faithless electors to flip to Clinton. See, for example, #UniteForAmerica video plea https://youtu.be/0z0iuWh3sek https:

by zaroth 6y ago

There were many calls by Democrats for faithless electors to flip to Clinton. See, for example, #UniteForAmerica video plea https://youtu.be/0z0iuWh3sek https://youtu.be/0z0iuWh3sek They then spent the next few years making up conspiracy theories and trying to delegitimize his election. I’d gently suggest that there are no clean hands here, and what Dems did 2016-2019 was sufficiently reprehensible.

tptacek 6y ago
You've met my example of the outgoing administration lobbying state legislatures to overturn their own votes with a hashtag.
- zaroth 6y ago
  You said, “Nobody attempted to overturn any state's electors.” I thought you might like to know that is not true. I posted a video which calls for exactly that in 2016. It’s a pretty amusing piece of history actually. To her credit, “Clinton’s team and the Democratic National Committee have steadfastly refused to endorse the efforts spearheaded by a group of electors in Colorado and Washington state.” NY Mag wrote a piece on the eve of the electoral vote documenting the extent of the harassment campaign, including hundreds of thousands of emails, hate mail, and death threats. Of course it also mentions Russia. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/12/final-push-to-sway-electoral-college-voters-intensifies.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/12/final-push-to-sway-e...
  - tptacek 6y ago
    Whatever argument you think it is we're having, you win. My point is that the 2016 Democrats and the 2020 Republicans aren't comparable, and that's obviously true.
windexh8er 6y ago
A Youtube video, fantastic! Yet you'll blindly compare that to physical threats of violence that we continue to see over and over which have been instigated by misleading or false statements from our sitting President?

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There were many calls by Democrats for faithless electors to flip to Clinton. See, for example, #UniteForAmerica video plea https://youtu.be/0z0iuWh3sek https:

by zaroth 6y ago

tptacek 6y ago
You've met my example of the outgoing administration lobbying state legislatures to overturn their own votes with a hashtag.
- zaroth 6y ago
  You said, “Nobody attempted to overturn any state's electors.” I thought you might like to know that is not true. I posted a video which calls for exactly that in 2016. It’s a pretty amusing piece of history actually. To her credit, “Clinton’s team and the Democratic National Committee have steadfastly refused to endorse the efforts spearheaded by a group of electors in Colorado and Washington state.” NY Mag wrote a piece on the eve of the electoral vote documenting the extent of the harassment campaign, including hundreds of thousands of emails, hate mail, and death threats. Of course it also mentions Russia. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/12/final-push-to-sway-electoral-college-voters-intensifies.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2016/12/final-push-to-sway-e...
  - tptacek 6y ago
    Whatever argument you think it is we're having, you win. My point is that the 2016 Democrats and the 2020 Republicans aren't comparable, and that's obviously true.
windexh8er 6y ago
A Youtube video, fantastic! Yet you'll blindly compare that to physical threats of violence that we continue to see over and over which have been instigated by misleading or false statements from our sitting President?