> let's not forget that it's possible, if hard, to have a honest business. I'm not convinced this is true in all industries. E.g. if you're a waste management

> let's not forget that it's possible, if hard, to have a honest business. I'm not convinced this is true in all industries. E.g. if you're a waste management company, how are you supposed to win deals on price if you have a competitors who are illegally dumping garbage into the ocean?