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Robots are the goal for Tesla - no labor laws needed for them (probably not for people that build them as well)! All jokes aside, Hyundai can probably do much

Robots are the goal for Tesla - no labor laws needed for them (probably not for people that build them as well)! All jokes aside, Hyundai can probably do much more with Boston Dynamics than Tesla. Tesla has already failed to automate, using the exact same method as Ford in the 80s. Doubt that throwing more advanced tech at it solves a fundamental logistics problem.

jamestimmins 6y ago
Do you know if Tesla's challenges have been written up anywhere? I'm very curious what they tried and failed to automate.
- T-A 6y ago
  The reference to Ford is reminiscent of this: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/04/experts-say-tesla-has-repeated-car-industry-mistakes-from-the-1980s/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/04/experts-say-tesla-has-r... It's quoted, along with a bunch of other articles from 2018, here: https://www.iqsdirectory.com/resources/teslas-big-problem-excessive-automation/ https://www.iqsdirectory.com/resources/teslas-big-problem-ex...
  - Cactus2018 6y ago
    > [Ars quoting Musk in 2017] "We are pushing robots to the limit in terms of the speed that they can operate at, and asking our suppliers to make robots go way faster, and they are shocked because nobody has ever asked them that question," Musk said on a conference call last November. I saw a video, years ago, when Tesla was installing/setting up/showing off the robots. The demonstrated method and tool to 'program' the robot arm was terrible, and the resulting arm motion was excessive. My takeaway was Tesla needed experienced staff to optimize the arm path. >[1980s GM quote] As Hamtramck's assembly line tried to gain speed, the computer-guided dolly wandered off course. The spray-painting robots began spraying each other instead of the cars.... When a massive computer-controlled 'robogate' welding machine smashed a car body, or a welding machine stopped dead, the entire Hamtramck line would stop. Workers could do nothing but stand around and wait while managers called in the robot contractor's technicians. This seems like a solvable problem.
    - joshspankit 6y ago
      I saw a video a few years ago where they failed to land a rocket on a platform and it blew up...

jamestimmins 6y ago

Do you know if Tesla's challenges have been written up anywhere? I'm very curious what they tried and failed to automate.

T-A 6y ago
The reference to Ford is reminiscent of this: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/04/experts-say-tesla-has-repeated-car-industry-mistakes-from-the-1980s/ https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/04/experts-say-tesla-has-r... It's quoted, along with a bunch of other articles from 2018, here: https://www.iqsdirectory.com/resources/teslas-big-problem-excessive-automation/ https://www.iqsdirectory.com/resources/teslas-big-problem-ex...
- Cactus2018 6y ago
  > [Ars quoting Musk in 2017] "We are pushing robots to the limit in terms of the speed that they can operate at, and asking our suppliers to make robots go way faster, and they are shocked because nobody has ever asked them that question," Musk said on a conference call last November. I saw a video, years ago, when Tesla was installing/setting up/showing off the robots. The demonstrated method and tool to 'program' the robot arm was terrible, and the resulting arm motion was excessive. My takeaway was Tesla needed experienced staff to optimize the arm path. >[1980s GM quote] As Hamtramck's assembly line tried to gain speed, the computer-guided dolly wandered off course. The spray-painting robots began spraying each other instead of the cars.... When a massive computer-controlled 'robogate' welding machine smashed a car body, or a welding machine stopped dead, the entire Hamtramck line would stop. Workers could do nothing but stand around and wait while managers called in the robot contractor's technicians. This seems like a solvable problem.
  - joshspankit 6y ago
    I saw a video a few years ago where they failed to land a rocket on a platform and it blew up...