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This comment is really weird. There is a good reason why the media publishes more negative articles about some presidents and fewer on others; some presidents a

This comment is really weird. There is a good reason why the media publishes more negative articles about some presidents and fewer on others; some presidents are legitimately better or worse than others.

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
By this metric, Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un are greatest leaders the world has ever seen.
- knowaveragejoe 6y ago
  No serious person with an interest in politics respects the state-sponsored news outlets of Russia or DPRK, but okay.
  - ed25519FUUU 6y ago
    Are you implying that political pressure might mean some leaders get more bad press than others?
  - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
    No-one respects CNN and the likes also. They are just like Newsmax, but serving the opposite side.
    - lalaland1125 6y ago
      Do you seriously believe that CNN's standards for truth are just as bad as Newsmax? That's quite a claim.
      - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
        I see their standards to be just about the same with Russian state propaganda channels. If you'd seen them both you'd be amazed with the similarity. Unless,of course, you would choose to overlook it - people often shield themselves from the information that doesn't fit their paradigm.
djsumdog 6y ago
Biden has gotten zero bad press. Twitter and Facebook literally squashed the Hunter Biden story showing evidence of strong ties to Ukraine and China. Biden has only been given softballs in interviews and the media stands behind the fact he's cognitively sound when he obviously isn't. The media is solidly in the house of of the establishment that led to the Bush/Clinton dynasty. They do not care about the truth. Let's look at Gov Whitmer and Cummo. Their decisions lead to the deaths of thousands of elderly because they stuffed them all together in nursing homes that were not equipped for COVID. The media has done NOTHING about this story. Cummo wrote a fucking book praising himself!! Biden and Harris will never face the same scrutiny Trump has.
- wwright 6y ago
  Have you even tried google news sources critical of Whitmer, Cuomo, or Biden? There are plenty of critics. Of course, it’s hard to be more critical to them than to an idiot who told people to inject bleach; that’s just to be expected, though.
  - djsumdog 6y ago
    > idiot who told people to inject bleach This literally didn't happen. His whole "cleansing" statement was cringy, yes. But he never told them to drink, inject or enema bleach. There was one person who did, for whatever reasons ... and really we should have let that problem solve itself.
    - mike00632 6y ago
      You're right. It was about injecting "disinfectant". The lying media keeps saying "bleach" when he was actually talking about bringing stuff like Lysol into the body. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests...
- SurfingToad 6y ago
  The Hunter Biden story was such an embarrassingly obvious piece of kompromat that it would have irresponsible to run with it just because the Trump campaign tried to push it out there. The reason why several major media outlets ignored the story is that they didn't want to play ball this time. They have written about this. They don't have an obligation to present strategically-crafted stories as if it were real news. Do you think Trump is throwing pardons around just for shits and giggles? This is the first time ever that a US president has been using pardons as get-out-of-jail-free cards for his friends and allies. And he's throwing them around because he has a habit of associating himself with criminals who commit crimes (on his behalf) and therefore need pardons. Trump wants to pardon his family, Giuliani, and potentially even himself. Which would not make the slightest bit of sense unless they had committed serious crimes. And if you argue that he wants to use the pardons to prevent those pesky democrats from setting him up, I want you to imagine a scenario where Biden was doing the exact same thing. Biden and Harris will be scrutinized in much the same way presidents and their VPs have been traditionally. Trump is an anomaly.
0x445442 6y ago
There's no way to square this statement given the coverage of Obama and Trump looking only at their policies.
- TheCoelacanth 6y ago
  Why would you only look at "policies" instead of everything they do in an official capacity? "Policies" are basically just the stories that politicians tell about themselves. What they actually do matters, not just what they claim to support.
cynoclast 6y ago
And sometimes the media is simply biased against that president: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555092743/study-news-coverage-of-trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555092743/study-news-coverage...
slcjordan 6y ago
I thought it was a good comment. I don't know why the left fears a legitimately impartial press instead of one that leaks debate questions to the Democratic candidate.
- nfoz 6y ago
  Source for the debate question leak? The one I know of was given to Clinton against Sanders in the Democratic primary... so it was the "further left" being antagonized lol. But if there's a recent instance of this between a Democrat vs Republican debate I'd be interested to hear of it.
- sgustard 6y ago
  Also debunked as false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-received-debate-questions-week-before-debate/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-received-debate-qu...
  - domnomnom 6y ago
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-email-shows-dnc-boss-giving-clinton-camp-debate-question-in-advance https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-email-shows-dnc-boss-gi... Is it?
    - ugh123 6y ago
      That is about the primary, not the presidential debate.
- Merman_Mike 6y ago
  It's funny when people try to play this up as some huge scandal. Someone told Clinton's campaign manager that there would be a question by a woman experiencing heath problems related to Flint's water supply. [1] The debate was being held in Flint. Do you think maybe everyone kind of knew that one was coming? [1] https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/303556-emails-brazile-leaked-debate-question-to-clinton-camp https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/303556-emails-brazi...
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disgrunt 6y ago
Seriously? This president has not started/entered into a war for the first time since Carter, reformed the criminal justice system to reverse laws that unfairly targeted minorities and non-violent drug crimes (laws supported by Biden when they were passed, btw), presided over a record low unemployment rate and record high wage increases for American workers prior to the pandemic and the media treats him like he's the reincarnation of Hitler. Imagine if Obama reformed the criminal justice system, wasn't a war monger in Syria/Libya and presided over a record economic boom? He'd be made a saint or something. Go figure.

Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago

By this metric, Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un are greatest leaders the world has ever seen.

knowaveragejoe 6y ago
No serious person with an interest in politics respects the state-sponsored news outlets of Russia or DPRK, but okay.
- ed25519FUUU 6y ago
  Are you implying that political pressure might mean some leaders get more bad press than others?
- Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
  No-one respects CNN and the likes also. They are just like Newsmax, but serving the opposite side.
  - lalaland1125 6y ago
    Do you seriously believe that CNN's standards for truth are just as bad as Newsmax? That's quite a claim.
    - Andrew_nenakhov 6y ago
      I see their standards to be just about the same with Russian state propaganda channels. If you'd seen them both you'd be amazed with the similarity. Unless,of course, you would choose to overlook it - people often shield themselves from the information that doesn't fit their paradigm.

djsumdog 6y ago

Biden has gotten zero bad press. Twitter and Facebook literally squashed the Hunter Biden story showing evidence of strong ties to Ukraine and China. Biden has only been given softballs in interviews and the media stands behind the fact he's cognitively sound when he obviously isn't. The media is solidly in the house of of the establishment that led to the Bush/Clinton dynasty. They do not care about the truth. Let's look at Gov Whitmer and Cummo. Their decisions lead to the deaths of thousands of elderly because they stuffed them all together in nursing homes that were not equipped for COVID. The media has done NOTHING about this story. Cummo wrote a fucking book praising himself!! Biden and Harris will never face the same scrutiny Trump has.

wwright 6y ago
Have you even tried google news sources critical of Whitmer, Cuomo, or Biden? There are plenty of critics. Of course, it’s hard to be more critical to them than to an idiot who told people to inject bleach; that’s just to be expected, though.
- djsumdog 6y ago
  > idiot who told people to inject bleach This literally didn't happen. His whole "cleansing" statement was cringy, yes. But he never told them to drink, inject or enema bleach. There was one person who did, for whatever reasons ... and really we should have let that problem solve itself.
  - mike00632 6y ago
    You're right. It was about injecting "disinfectant". The lying media keeps saying "bleach" when he was actually talking about bringing stuff like Lysol into the body. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests...
SurfingToad 6y ago
The Hunter Biden story was such an embarrassingly obvious piece of kompromat that it would have irresponsible to run with it just because the Trump campaign tried to push it out there. The reason why several major media outlets ignored the story is that they didn't want to play ball this time. They have written about this. They don't have an obligation to present strategically-crafted stories as if it were real news. Do you think Trump is throwing pardons around just for shits and giggles? This is the first time ever that a US president has been using pardons as get-out-of-jail-free cards for his friends and allies. And he's throwing them around because he has a habit of associating himself with criminals who commit crimes (on his behalf) and therefore need pardons. Trump wants to pardon his family, Giuliani, and potentially even himself. Which would not make the slightest bit of sense unless they had committed serious crimes. And if you argue that he wants to use the pardons to prevent those pesky democrats from setting him up, I want you to imagine a scenario where Biden was doing the exact same thing. Biden and Harris will be scrutinized in much the same way presidents and their VPs have been traditionally. Trump is an anomaly.

0x445442 6y ago

There's no way to square this statement given the coverage of Obama and Trump looking only at their policies.

TheCoelacanth 6y ago
Why would you only look at "policies" instead of everything they do in an official capacity? "Policies" are basically just the stories that politicians tell about themselves. What they actually do matters, not just what they claim to support.

cynoclast 6y ago

And sometimes the media is simply biased against that president: https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555092743/study-news-coverage-of-trump-more-negative-than-for-other-presidents https://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555092743/study-news-coverage...

slcjordan 6y ago

I thought it was a good comment. I don't know why the left fears a legitimately impartial press instead of one that leaks debate questions to the Democratic candidate.

nfoz 6y ago
Source for the debate question leak? The one I know of was given to Clinton against Sanders in the Democratic primary... so it was the "further left" being antagonized lol. But if there's a recent instance of this between a Democrat vs Republican debate I'd be interested to hear of it.
sgustard 6y ago
Also debunked as false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-received-debate-questions-week-before-debate/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-received-debate-qu...
- domnomnom 6y ago
  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-email-shows-dnc-boss-giving-clinton-camp-debate-question-in-advance https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-email-shows-dnc-boss-gi... Is it?
  - ugh123 6y ago
    That is about the primary, not the presidential debate.
Merman_Mike 6y ago
It's funny when people try to play this up as some huge scandal. Someone told Clinton's campaign manager that there would be a question by a woman experiencing heath problems related to Flint's water supply. [1] The debate was being held in Flint. Do you think maybe everyone kind of knew that one was coming? [1] https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/303556-emails-brazile-leaked-debate-question-to-clinton-camp https://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/303556-emails-brazi...

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disgrunt 6y ago

Seriously? This president has not started/entered into a war for the first time since Carter, reformed the criminal justice system to reverse laws that unfairly targeted minorities and non-violent drug crimes (laws supported by Biden when they were passed, btw), presided over a record low unemployment rate and record high wage increases for American workers prior to the pandemic and the media treats him like he's the reincarnation of Hitler. Imagine if Obama reformed the criminal justice system, wasn't a war monger in Syria/Libya and presided over a record economic boom? He'd be made a saint or something. Go figure.