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It's not just Texas though. Like 10 other states have joined.

dragonwriter 6y ago
Zero states or other parties have joined, or filed to intervene, but seven states plus the president have indicated that they support and intend to do so. Filings in the case are here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22o155.html https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/... No one but Texas has filed anything. [EDIT: As noted downthread, things have moved on, and new filings are in.]
- mythrwy 6y ago
  I think it's 9 indicating they want to join now. I don't have an official source. Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Dakota, Missouri. They may get Indiana and Oklahoma as well is my understanding. And they are (at least some of them) interested in joining. https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-louisiana-ags-want-join-texas-election-lawsuit-against-battleground-states-1553392 https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-louisiana-ags-want-join-tex... This is a big deal no matter what your political persuasion is. It's not just some crazy people claiming voting machines are controlled by the Chinese using mind control and a local judge throwing it out. If they take the case it's going to be a very historic event.
  - SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
    1) it's a big deal for democracy, that's correct. 2) well, it is crazy claims from some crazy / cynical people. 3) no, it won't be thrown out by a _local_ judge. (1) In reality, the election is long over and not close (2) Containing to fabricate an alternate reality via vexatious litigation isn't healthy. 1) https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/12/09/texas-supreme-court-election-lawsuit/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/12/09/texas-supr... 2) https://twitter.com/wolfblitzer/status/1336760093313032192 https://twitter.com/wolfblitzer/status/1336760093313032192
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  - dragonwriter 6y ago
    > This is a big deal no matter what your political persuasion is. Yes, attempted anti-democratic coups d'etats in powerful, established democracies are big deal. > It's not just some crazy people claiming voting machines are controlled by the Chinese using mind control and a local judge throwing it out. That's true; while not substantially different in the craziness of the claims, if it is thrown out, it won't be by a local judge. > If they take the case it's going to be a very historic event. If they refuse to take the case, its very historic. If they take the case and then dismiss it on threshold grounds like standing or the political question / separation of powers doctrine, it will be very historic. If they take the case and reach the merits, it will be very historic.
    - mythrwy 6y ago
      Well I'm just delighted we agree on one thing! Historic. The problem I'm seeing is this. You (and millions of others) see this as a coup attempt. Myself (and millions of others) see the election with hurried mail in ballots and little oversight and lack of external challengers as a coup attempt. We are coming from two very different places obviously and there are a bunch of us. Too many to just say "screw those people they are wrong!" (which is the natural first inclination probably). So what happens? How do we work this out where we can share society together?
      - dragonwriter 6y ago
        > So what happens? How do we work this out where we can share society together? What makes you think that's still even a reasonable expectation? Likely, there will be blood in the streets. Even if the leadership peacefully admits defeat to end the formal dispute, the radicalization on your side has, with the deliberate encouragement of rhetoric from the top, probably gone too far for there to be any reasonable expectation that that won't be where this ultimately ends for many of the foot soldiers. And, the people on your side that have been seeking specifically a second civil and/or a race war may well still get what they have sought.
        mythrwy 6y ago
- mythrwy 6y ago
  17 States are now supporting it. https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163215/20201209144840609_2020-12-09%20-%20Texas%20v.%20Pennsylvania%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Missouri%20et%20al.%20-%20Final%20with%20Tables.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163215/2020...

Zero states or other parties have joined, or filed to intervene, but seven states plus the president have indicated that they support and intend to do so. Filings in the case are here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22o155.html https://www.supremecourt.gov/docket/docketfiles/html/public/... No one but Texas has filed anything. [EDIT: As noted downthread, things have moved on, and new filings are in.]

mythrwy 6y ago
I think it's 9 indicating they want to join now. I don't have an official source. Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Dakota, Missouri. They may get Indiana and Oklahoma as well is my understanding. And they are (at least some of them) interested in joining. https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-louisiana-ags-want-join-texas-election-lawsuit-against-battleground-states-1553392 https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-louisiana-ags-want-join-tex... This is a big deal no matter what your political persuasion is. It's not just some crazy people claiming voting machines are controlled by the Chinese using mind control and a local judge throwing it out. If they take the case it's going to be a very historic event.
- SideburnsOfDoom 6y ago
  1) it's a big deal for democracy, that's correct. 2) well, it is crazy claims from some crazy / cynical people. 3) no, it won't be thrown out by a _local_ judge. (1) In reality, the election is long over and not close (2) Containing to fabricate an alternate reality via vexatious litigation isn't healthy. 1) https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/12/09/texas-supreme-court-election-lawsuit/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/12/09/texas-supr... 2) https://twitter.com/wolfblitzer/status/1336760093313032192 https://twitter.com/wolfblitzer/status/1336760093313032192
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- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > This is a big deal no matter what your political persuasion is. Yes, attempted anti-democratic coups d'etats in powerful, established democracies are big deal. > It's not just some crazy people claiming voting machines are controlled by the Chinese using mind control and a local judge throwing it out. That's true; while not substantially different in the craziness of the claims, if it is thrown out, it won't be by a local judge. > If they take the case it's going to be a very historic event. If they refuse to take the case, its very historic. If they take the case and then dismiss it on threshold grounds like standing or the political question / separation of powers doctrine, it will be very historic. If they take the case and reach the merits, it will be very historic.
  - mythrwy 6y ago
    Well I'm just delighted we agree on one thing! Historic. The problem I'm seeing is this. You (and millions of others) see this as a coup attempt. Myself (and millions of others) see the election with hurried mail in ballots and little oversight and lack of external challengers as a coup attempt. We are coming from two very different places obviously and there are a bunch of us. Too many to just say "screw those people they are wrong!" (which is the natural first inclination probably). So what happens? How do we work this out where we can share society together?
    - dragonwriter 6y ago
      > So what happens? How do we work this out where we can share society together? What makes you think that's still even a reasonable expectation? Likely, there will be blood in the streets. Even if the leadership peacefully admits defeat to end the formal dispute, the radicalization on your side has, with the deliberate encouragement of rhetoric from the top, probably gone too far for there to be any reasonable expectation that that won't be where this ultimately ends for many of the foot soldiers. And, the people on your side that have been seeking specifically a second civil and/or a race war may well still get what they have sought.
      - mythrwy 6y ago
mythrwy 6y ago
17 States are now supporting it. https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163215/20201209144840609_2020-12-09%20-%20Texas%20v.%20Pennsylvania%20-%20Amicus%20Brief%20of%20Missouri%20et%20al.%20-%20Final%20with%20Tables.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22O155/163215/2020...