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The liberal inner cores of Texas cities primarily grew up in these burbs and small towns, and know that despite being a MAGA bro, their uncle isn't satan incarn

The liberal inner cores of Texas cities primarily grew up in these burbs and small towns, and know that despite being a MAGA bro, their uncle isn't satan incarnate. Compare that to the dirty looks I got walking around SF in a Buck-ees hat that happened to be red. It bordered upon comedy.

lavishlatern 6y ago
I've never seen this behavior in SF, especially considering how many people wear red 49ers apparel...
- sonotmyname 6y ago
  77 year old man attacked for wearing MAGA hat https://krcrtv.com/news/local/77-year-old-veteran-attacked-for-wearing-maga-hat https://krcrtv.com/news/local/77-year-old-veteran-attacked-f... Man sent to jail for attack on man wearing MAGA hat: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/man-who-attacked-maga-hat-wearing-bar-patron-in-restroom-faces-4-years-in-prison https://www.fox5dc.com/news/man-who-attacked-maga-hat-wearin... And an article about other incidents around the country: https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/attacks-trump-supporters-maga-hats/ https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/attacks-trump-supporters... 49ers hats are not bright red, and tend to be fairly distinctive. Anecdote time - my buddy sometimes wears a red hat with the California bear on it, and he regularly (as in without fail) gets dirty looks because of it. I personally stopped wearing my red Nike running hat in public last year because of the reactions I'd get. For context, we live in a relatively conservative East Bay suburb of Northern California.
  - lavishlatern 6y ago
    1) None of these incidents occurred in SF 2) Politically motivated violence is rare in the US and right-wing violence obviously exists as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Portland_train_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Portland_train_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_car_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_car_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_mail_bombing_attempts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_mai... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_boogaloo_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_boogaloo_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_pl... Implying that people who enjoy wearing red hats should avoid SF is like telling liberals to not open their mail. It's absurd. 3) They definitely make 49er hats in bright red: https://www.rallyhouse.com/assets/images/products/59001909-1.jpg https://www.rallyhouse.com/assets/images/products/59001909-1... https://m.hatland.com/prodimg/m1/49ers-super-bowl-xxiii-gold-50-red-fitted-new-era-26917.jpg https://m.hatland.com/prodimg/m1/49ers-super-bowl-xxiii-gold... https://www.neweracap.com/medias/sys_master/root/h75/h28/8914481315870/8914481315870.png https://www.neweracap.com/medias/sys_master/root/h75/h28/891... https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/1f6093f0-cbdc-42ac-a096-c656e7711021.75e581e6ae24eeb3d8719e404680fc16.jpeg https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/1f6093f0-cbdc-42ac-a096-c65...
- mustacheemperor 6y ago
  Nothing results in seeing more 'dirty looks' than a persecution complex.
- TheGrassyKnoll 6y ago
  Try wearing a Dodger hat then.
TMWNN 6y ago
>Compare that to the dirty looks I got walking around SF in a Buck-ees hat that happened to be red. It bordered upon comedy. For those who doubt you, I ask them to ponder the following: Put on a "Make America Great Again" hat and walk through downtown Chicago, San Francisco, Ann Arbor, or Cambridge before or after election day 2016 (or 2020). Now, put on a "I'm With Her" or "Biden/Harris 2020" shirt and walk through Provo, Fort Worth, or Pensacola before or after election day. In which scenario are you more like to be yelled at and/or physically attacked?
- djur 6y ago
  You seem to think the answer to this is obvious, but it's sufficiently non-obvious to me that I don't even know which answer you're assuming.
  - thrav 6y ago
    Provo is full of overly polite Mormon families and BYU. They chose cartoonish examples of polite conservative locales to make their point. There are plenty of conservative places that would be upset to see Harris / Biden attire. Look no further than the classic Top Gear episode with the Gay Pride car and the Clinton car driving through the south.
    - TMWNN 6y ago
      > Provo is full of overly polite Mormon families and BYU. They chose cartoonish examples of polite conservative locales to make their point. Are Fort Worth and Pensacola also filled with "overly polite Mormons"? Are they also "cartoonish examples of polite conservative locales"? (Congratulations, by the way, on making polite Mormons and conservatives sound like bad things.) Conversely, are San Francisco, Ann Arbor, and Cambridge "cartoonish examples of crazy extreme leftists", or are they (unfortunately) typical of places where such congregate?
      - thrav 6y ago
        They’re about as liberal as places get, yes. I currently live in SF, spent 5 years in Utah, and my entire childhood in Texas. I know several of the places you mentioned quite well. Mormons are excellent people. I sincerely appreciate how absurdly polite they are. They are cartoonishly polite. It’s just true. My newly married 20 year old next door neighbors moved in and immediately brought me, a plate of fresh baked cookies on day 1. Fort Worth is a place with plenty of parts of town where I can pretty well guarantee that you’d catch some flack. That said, most big Texas cities are as liberal as they are conservative, if not more, so it’s a bad example of an absurdly conservative place. It’s nowhere near as conservative as SF and Cambridge are liberal. No major city in Texas is. Texas is more diverse than anyone gives it credit for. I don’t know anything about Pensacola, so I can’t comment on that.

lavishlatern 6y ago

I've never seen this behavior in SF, especially considering how many people wear red 49ers apparel...

sonotmyname 6y ago
77 year old man attacked for wearing MAGA hat https://krcrtv.com/news/local/77-year-old-veteran-attacked-for-wearing-maga-hat https://krcrtv.com/news/local/77-year-old-veteran-attacked-f... Man sent to jail for attack on man wearing MAGA hat: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/man-who-attacked-maga-hat-wearing-bar-patron-in-restroom-faces-4-years-in-prison https://www.fox5dc.com/news/man-who-attacked-maga-hat-wearin... And an article about other incidents around the country: https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/attacks-trump-supporters-maga-hats/ https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/attacks-trump-supporters... 49ers hats are not bright red, and tend to be fairly distinctive. Anecdote time - my buddy sometimes wears a red hat with the California bear on it, and he regularly (as in without fail) gets dirty looks because of it. I personally stopped wearing my red Nike running hat in public last year because of the reactions I'd get. For context, we live in a relatively conservative East Bay suburb of Northern California.
- lavishlatern 6y ago
  1) None of these incidents occurred in SF 2) Politically motivated violence is rare in the US and right-wing violence obviously exists as well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Portland_train_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Portland_train_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_car_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_car_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_mail_bombing_attempts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2018_United_States_mai... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_synagogue_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_boogaloo_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_boogaloo_killings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_plot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Whitmer_kidnapping_pl... Implying that people who enjoy wearing red hats should avoid SF is like telling liberals to not open their mail. It's absurd. 3) They definitely make 49er hats in bright red: https://www.rallyhouse.com/assets/images/products/59001909-1.jpg https://www.rallyhouse.com/assets/images/products/59001909-1... https://m.hatland.com/prodimg/m1/49ers-super-bowl-xxiii-gold-50-red-fitted-new-era-26917.jpg https://m.hatland.com/prodimg/m1/49ers-super-bowl-xxiii-gold... https://www.neweracap.com/medias/sys_master/root/h75/h28/8914481315870/8914481315870.png https://www.neweracap.com/medias/sys_master/root/h75/h28/891... https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/1f6093f0-cbdc-42ac-a096-c656e7711021.75e581e6ae24eeb3d8719e404680fc16.jpeg https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/1f6093f0-cbdc-42ac-a096-c65...
mustacheemperor 6y ago
Nothing results in seeing more 'dirty looks' than a persecution complex.
TheGrassyKnoll 6y ago
Try wearing a Dodger hat then.

TMWNN 6y ago

>Compare that to the dirty looks I got walking around SF in a Buck-ees hat that happened to be red. It bordered upon comedy. For those who doubt you, I ask them to ponder the following: Put on a "Make America Great Again" hat and walk through downtown Chicago, San Francisco, Ann Arbor, or Cambridge before or after election day 2016 (or 2020). Now, put on a "I'm With Her" or "Biden/Harris 2020" shirt and walk through Provo, Fort Worth, or Pensacola before or after election day. In which scenario are you more like to be yelled at and/or physically attacked?

djur 6y ago
You seem to think the answer to this is obvious, but it's sufficiently non-obvious to me that I don't even know which answer you're assuming.
- thrav 6y ago
  Provo is full of overly polite Mormon families and BYU. They chose cartoonish examples of polite conservative locales to make their point. There are plenty of conservative places that would be upset to see Harris / Biden attire. Look no further than the classic Top Gear episode with the Gay Pride car and the Clinton car driving through the south.
  - TMWNN 6y ago
    > Provo is full of overly polite Mormon families and BYU. They chose cartoonish examples of polite conservative locales to make their point. Are Fort Worth and Pensacola also filled with "overly polite Mormons"? Are they also "cartoonish examples of polite conservative locales"? (Congratulations, by the way, on making polite Mormons and conservatives sound like bad things.) Conversely, are San Francisco, Ann Arbor, and Cambridge "cartoonish examples of crazy extreme leftists", or are they (unfortunately) typical of places where such congregate?
    - thrav 6y ago
      They’re about as liberal as places get, yes. I currently live in SF, spent 5 years in Utah, and my entire childhood in Texas. I know several of the places you mentioned quite well. Mormons are excellent people. I sincerely appreciate how absurdly polite they are. They are cartoonishly polite. It’s just true. My newly married 20 year old next door neighbors moved in and immediately brought me, a plate of fresh baked cookies on day 1. Fort Worth is a place with plenty of parts of town where I can pretty well guarantee that you’d catch some flack. That said, most big Texas cities are as liberal as they are conservative, if not more, so it’s a bad example of an absurdly conservative place. It’s nowhere near as conservative as SF and Cambridge are liberal. No major city in Texas is. Texas is more diverse than anyone gives it credit for. I don’t know anything about Pensacola, so I can’t comment on that.