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Debian Unstable -> Testing -> Stable -> Oldstable -> Oldstable with LTS Fedora -> Centos Stream -> RHEL -> RHEL with LTS Opensuse T

Debian Unstable -> Testing -> Stable -> Oldstable -> Oldstable with LTS Fedora -> Centos Stream -> RHEL -> RHEL with LTS Opensuse Tumbleweed -> Leap -> SLES -> SLES with LTS Debian supports upgrades with major versions, and doesn't bump package major versions between minor versions. SLE/Leap don't support upgrades between major versions, and bump package major versions between minor versions.

rombert 6y ago
Note that the gap between Leap and SLE will become quite small after Leap 15.3, with binary packages for SLE being reused for Leap. It's interesting that while RH/IBM are moving away from the 'community rebuild' model SUSE are moving close. https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap/FAQ/ClosingTheLeapGap https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap/FAQ/ClosingTheLeapGap
pferde 6y ago
It is untrue that SLES does not support upgrades between major versions: https://documentation.suse.com/sles/15-SP2/single-html/SLES-upgrade/#sec-upgrade-paths-supported https://documentation.suse.com/sles/15-SP2/single-html/SLES-... It is, however, true that SLES is less conservative than e.g. RHEL when it comes to bumping software versions between their minor releases (service packs). I remember that they switched from 2.6 to 3.0 kernels sometimes in SLES10 days. Fun stuff.
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- pelasaco 6y ago
  openSUSE however doesn't support it https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade#Supported_scenarios https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade#Supported_scenari...
  - merb 6y ago
    tumbleweed does or rather, tumbleweed does not have point releases. in my eyes tumbleweed is way better for cloud, IoT and desktops, as soon as you use transactional-update P.S. I'm fallen in love with it.
  - pferde 6y ago
    The link you posted only states that the upgrade is not supported for 64-bit ARM, and that 32-bit (x86) system cannot be upgraded to Leap. It doesn't say upgrade in general is not.
pelasaco 6y ago
> Opensuse Tumbleweed -> Leap -> SLES -> SLES with LTS Almost right :) Leap is the fixed point release, based on SLE. SLE is rebased on Tumbleweed every 3-4 years.
- viccuad 6y ago
  Well, my intent was to roughly chart the supported timeframe and expectations of each, not the flow of code through them. That SLE gets rebased from Tumbleweed directly every 3-4 years justs showcases my second point from before: SLE bumps major versions of packages between minor SLE versions.

rombert 6y ago

Note that the gap between Leap and SLE will become quite small after Leap 15.3, with binary packages for SLE being reused for Leap. It's interesting that while RH/IBM are moving away from the 'community rebuild' model SUSE are moving close. https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap/FAQ/ClosingTheLeapGap https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Leap/FAQ/ClosingTheLeapGap

pferde 6y ago

It is untrue that SLES does not support upgrades between major versions: https://documentation.suse.com/sles/15-SP2/single-html/SLES-upgrade/#sec-upgrade-paths-supported https://documentation.suse.com/sles/15-SP2/single-html/SLES-... It is, however, true that SLES is less conservative than e.g. RHEL when it comes to bumping software versions between their minor releases (service packs). I remember that they switched from 2.6 to 3.0 kernels sometimes in SLES10 days. Fun stuff.

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pelasaco 6y ago
openSUSE however doesn't support it https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade#Supported_scenarios https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:System_upgrade#Supported_scenari...
- merb 6y ago
  tumbleweed does or rather, tumbleweed does not have point releases. in my eyes tumbleweed is way better for cloud, IoT and desktops, as soon as you use transactional-update P.S. I'm fallen in love with it.
- pferde 6y ago
  The link you posted only states that the upgrade is not supported for 64-bit ARM, and that 32-bit (x86) system cannot be upgraded to Leap. It doesn't say upgrade in general is not.

pelasaco 6y ago

> Opensuse Tumbleweed -> Leap -> SLES -> SLES with LTS Almost right :) Leap is the fixed point release, based on SLE. SLE is rebased on Tumbleweed every 3-4 years.

viccuad 6y ago
Well, my intent was to roughly chart the supported timeframe and expectations of each, not the flow of code through them. That SLE gets rebased from Tumbleweed directly every 3-4 years justs showcases my second point from before: SLE bumps major versions of packages between minor SLE versions.