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Let me rephrase your comment. It says the exact same thing you do: >"You have it better than poor people in third world countries, stop complaining about worker

Let me rephrase your comment. It says the exact same thing you do: >"You have it better than poor people in third world countries, stop complaining about worker abuses you below the poverty line minimum wage people, you should be grateful. Yes since 1970 you're wealth has stagnated or decreased and the top earners have massively increased their share of the pie, but you should be grateful.!!"

Darmody 6y ago
I don't think he's saying that they should stop complaining. He's saying they don't realize what they have, they are not thankful for anything and they keep dramatizing over everything.
- FireBeyond 6y ago
  "All they do is complain and bitch". Certainly _implies_ that they shouldn't be, in his opinion.
  - Darmody 6y ago
    Well, they shouldn't be. You don't just complain and bitch. You won't solve anything like that. And I'm not talking about Americans here, that applies to everybody. Tantrums are OK when you're a kid, once you grow up you're expected to do better.
    - _throwawayyyyyy 6y ago
      like the tantrum that OP posted about not bitching?
      - Darmody 6y ago
        We're debating on a public forum, how's that a tantrum?
- icedistilled 6y ago
  I actually stopped reading after the statement "[minimum wage] Americans are ungrateful, lack perspective and are entitled". Because a statement like that is kinda toxic and doesn't help anyone but the top 1% who've hoarded all the gains over the last few decades. Reading the rest now, I'm actually even more displeased at the poster's take. While it's very true some minimum wage earning americans are not understanding or hostile to immigration, this person seems to be wanting to stir trouble among groups of people who have the least in america. Immigrants and minimum wage workers both get the short end of the stick. Telling a minimum wage worker who likely can't afford rent and are probably below the poverty line, they should be grateful because there's "starving children in africa" sounds patronizing, entitled, lacking empathy, and does no help anyone. It does not help the minimum wage worker or people in the other countries. In America, the top one percent holds over $25 trillion in wealth, exceeding the wealth of the bottom 80 percent. That other people have it worse than the bottom of the 80 percent is only to distract from that bigger issue.

Darmody 6y ago

I don't think he's saying that they should stop complaining. He's saying they don't realize what they have, they are not thankful for anything and they keep dramatizing over everything.

FireBeyond 6y ago
"All they do is complain and bitch". Certainly _implies_ that they shouldn't be, in his opinion.
- Darmody 6y ago
  Well, they shouldn't be. You don't just complain and bitch. You won't solve anything like that. And I'm not talking about Americans here, that applies to everybody. Tantrums are OK when you're a kid, once you grow up you're expected to do better.
  - _throwawayyyyyy 6y ago
    like the tantrum that OP posted about not bitching?
    - Darmody 6y ago
      We're debating on a public forum, how's that a tantrum?
icedistilled 6y ago
I actually stopped reading after the statement "[minimum wage] Americans are ungrateful, lack perspective and are entitled". Because a statement like that is kinda toxic and doesn't help anyone but the top 1% who've hoarded all the gains over the last few decades. Reading the rest now, I'm actually even more displeased at the poster's take. While it's very true some minimum wage earning americans are not understanding or hostile to immigration, this person seems to be wanting to stir trouble among groups of people who have the least in america. Immigrants and minimum wage workers both get the short end of the stick. Telling a minimum wage worker who likely can't afford rent and are probably below the poverty line, they should be grateful because there's "starving children in africa" sounds patronizing, entitled, lacking empathy, and does no help anyone. It does not help the minimum wage worker or people in the other countries. In America, the top one percent holds over $25 trillion in wealth, exceeding the wealth of the bottom 80 percent. That other people have it worse than the bottom of the 80 percent is only to distract from that bigger issue.